tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4958997061437462003.post8268263144791617443..comments2024-03-28T17:35:48.164-06:00Comments on Pro Football Journal: The Top 4-3 Ends In NFL HistoryJohn Turneyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06612706488776938253noreply@blogger.comBlogger36125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4958997061437462003.post-42551758388740336202024-01-08T21:41:29.587-07:002024-01-08T21:41:29.587-07:00Nick is still working on th 1960s but Jones had ov...Nick is still working on th 1960s but Jones had over 100 stuffs other than the sacks... but he's trying to complete it but be average maybe 7-8-9 a year with a tope year maybe around 13-15...something like thatJohn Turneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06612706488776938253noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4958997061437462003.post-22374258865779305892024-01-08T20:46:47.389-07:002024-01-08T20:46:47.389-07:00I see Jones’ sack totals listed yearly on pro foot...I see Jones’ sack totals listed yearly on pro football reference however not his tackles for loss. Are his non sack tackles for loss listed on any other stat cite or spreadsheet anywhere? Also are there totals of his forced fumbles listed anywhere? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4958997061437462003.post-35168013289960974262024-01-08T20:44:24.571-07:002024-01-08T20:44:24.571-07:00Are the year by year TFL totals posted anywhere? I...Are the year by year TFL totals posted anywhere? I see the sack totals listed on Pro Football Reference but not tackles for loss. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4958997061437462003.post-31787615795086164792023-12-29T19:41:35.897-07:002023-12-29T19:41:35.897-07:00Jones link -- https://www.pro-football-reference.c...Jones link -- https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/J/JoneDe00.htm<br /><br />TFL, to us, means sacks not included. For the NFL they included them, I sued TFL because not everyone knows the term stuff (a tackle for loss, included forced fumble plays accounted for the same was as sacks---like STATS, LLC did ... but these include pass plays, too, like maybe a screen pass ... STATS didn't do thatJohn Turneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06612706488776938253noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4958997061437462003.post-63023743119482995662023-12-29T05:17:39.479-07:002023-12-29T05:17:39.479-07:00Are their season by season totals of Deacon Jones ...Are their season by season totals of Deacon Jones tackle for loss tallies? If so, I’m curious as to what figures he was posting from 1964-1968 when he was at his statistical best. Furthermore, are these tackle for loss including the cases when a sack is marked for a TFL, or are these pure tackles for loss excluding sacks? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4958997061437462003.post-88797800545797945872022-02-02T19:29:37.210-07:002022-02-02T19:29:37.210-07:00He is one of the Top designated rushers ever. He h...He is one of the Top designated rushers ever. He have him #2 all time<br /><br />https://nflfootballjournal.blogspot.com/2020/10/top-designated-pass-rushers-of-all-time.htmlJohn Turneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06612706488776938253noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4958997061437462003.post-66135298351712853452022-02-02T17:28:55.143-07:002022-02-02T17:28:55.143-07:00What about Greg Townsend? Did you consider having ...What about Greg Townsend? Did you consider having him somewhere on here?Kylenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4958997061437462003.post-87552960293358416102021-07-09T10:05:18.768-06:002021-07-09T10:05:18.768-06:00Thanks for having an excellent blog. I'm curio...Thanks for having an excellent blog. I'm curious as to why Jeff Merrow of the Falcons didn't make the list, but John Zook did. I always thought of them as similar players with Merrow being better against the run, Zook slightly better at pass rush. Also a recent post asked about Dwight White, I found him at spot 100, which is surprisingly low. Is it because White was only playing at a very high level for 5 seasons?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4958997061437462003.post-91441804100604468462021-06-01T11:59:58.137-06:002021-06-01T11:59:58.137-06:003-4 OLBer, and some other base positions---not a 4...3-4 OLBer, and some other base positions---not a 4-3 DEJohn Turneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06612706488776938253noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4958997061437462003.post-51256088559433998012021-05-31T21:23:20.021-06:002021-05-31T21:23:20.021-06:00Derrick Thomas kC???Derrick Thomas kC???Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4958997061437462003.post-22299049840137403722020-12-10T23:32:15.937-07:002020-12-10T23:32:15.937-07:00Penalties have also been refreshed and are a hybri...Penalties have also been refreshed and are a hybrid of free-kick mechanics and last years timed finishing. 1st, target exactly where you want your shot to go, then ascertain its energy by holding inside the shoot button. Undertaking so increases the reticle size, but by pressing it once more because the players foot tends to make get in touch with together with the ball you'll be able to lessen the diameter considerably, resulting in a additional precise penalty. For more particulars, you may verify out at IGN, and should you hunt for the top place to obtain MUT 21 Coins, I nevertheless suggest the EZMUT, since it may be the best <a href="https://ezmut.com/madden-21-coins" title="MUT 21 Coins" rel="nofollow">Madden 21 Coins</a> supplier who trades coins by way of Player Auction 3.0, Comfort Trade 3.0 and Player Auction P2P to help keep the game account secure.<br />charles baileyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04473909332237032943noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4958997061437462003.post-67366786342926753902020-01-09T17:57:38.435-07:002020-01-09T17:57:38.435-07:00Hi John, Did I miss Dwight White? Didn't see h...Hi John, Did I miss Dwight White? Didn't see him in this list. We gave him higher grades than McDole, Horace Jones and Tony Cline. Especially 1972-75.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4958997061437462003.post-68784160480090763892019-09-26T04:46:02.234-06:002019-09-26T04:46:02.234-06:00He wasn't able to secure a fulltime starting j...He wasn't able to secure a fulltime starting job in 4 of his first 5 seasons. Slow start. Also, only 3-time All-Pro, one being consensus. He's tenth. You could argue maybe as high as 8th or 9th.<br /><br />He's not a top 5 DEJohn Turneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06612706488776938253noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4958997061437462003.post-70055976571680058782019-09-24T16:14:11.328-06:002019-09-24T16:14:11.328-06:00Doug Atkins should be top 5 at least.Doug Atkins should be top 5 at least.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17497401672598566964noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4958997061437462003.post-18466287146904801772019-01-26T15:26:15.522-07:002019-01-26T15:26:15.522-07:00How about Tony Tolbert? He had a rather brief car...How about Tony Tolbert? He had a rather brief career (9 years and he retired before his 30th birthday) but was a key defensive player on those championship Cowboys teams of the 1990's. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4958997061437462003.post-66170615843942373582018-08-04T12:02:00.871-06:002018-08-04T12:02:00.871-06:00It's my understanding that many of these old t...It's my understanding that many of these old time players' defensive statistics are going to be published in a book sometime soon.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4958997061437462003.post-13520897999427784572018-08-04T10:10:01.236-06:002018-08-04T10:10:01.236-06:00Blair with his size and agility seems like he woul...Blair with his size and agility seems like he would easily transition to 2018 NFL.alen baileyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09948457335469361491noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4958997061437462003.post-33351455109910415032018-08-03T15:59:14.732-06:002018-08-03T15:59:14.732-06:00Absolutely agree that Matt Blair was a great playe...Absolutely agree that Matt Blair was a great player...a difference maker on defence and on special teams. HOVG material for certain.John Hornhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05729889426496854504noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4958997061437462003.post-86656403360732829382018-08-03T00:24:57.994-06:002018-08-03T00:24:57.994-06:00If there were a 4th from than era it would be Mars...If there were a 4th from than era it would be Marshall, sure. But the guy who gets robbed is Matt Blair. Pro Scout has him as a "blue" most every year, and outside Hendricks and Page and Whitsell, best kick blocker ever. He's top 4, put it that way. But no one knows how good Blair was except Vikings fans. <br /><br />But the preoccupation with Marshall by many overshadows Blair. That's my take anyway. People are for sure, free to disagree.John Turneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06612706488776938253noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4958997061437462003.post-18901812781866929362018-08-01T23:15:10.911-06:002018-08-01T23:15:10.911-06:00Great list, John. We purple bleeders echo your com...Great list, John. We purple bleeders echo your comments regarding the ridiculous delays in voting the Grant-era Vikings into the HOF. As you know, Sir Francis also had to wait until his third year of eligibility to get the call.<br /><br />I'm on the fence with Jim Marshall's candidacy. Your points are absolutely valid but is it possible that he may have achieved more personal honors if he wasn't overshadowed by Page and Eller? Did he play a more "stay at home" role because of Page and Eller? Only three members of the dominant 1968-77 Vikings defense have been enshrined in Canton. If there were to be a fourth, would Marshall be the logical candidate?John Hornhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05729889426496854504noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4958997061437462003.post-80096000766084289132018-07-27T20:44:12.667-06:002018-07-27T20:44:12.667-06:00Thank you for at least providing a few other names...Thank you for at least providing a few other names!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17740535139297668783noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4958997061437462003.post-67838722886947523692018-07-27T20:37:06.494-06:002018-07-27T20:37:06.494-06:00I wish Buschbaum was around as well. He an Dr.Z we...I wish Buschbaum was around as well. He an Dr.Z were my favorite writers. <br />You say Dent was on the trading block in 1986? Was that to Tampa as part of a deal to get Steve Young? I'd heard rumors about Bears seeking Young, but never seen anything concretely reported. MTSnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4958997061437462003.post-75585620647426158662018-07-27T16:48:19.080-06:002018-07-27T16:48:19.080-06:00that is a hard done, so little film available. Cer...that is a hard done, so little film available. Certainly Sprinkle, Tom Wham, Larry Brink...and even Len Ford would be on that list since be played both. Jack Russell, Ray Poole.John Turneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06612706488776938253noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4958997061437462003.post-48285259198676730862018-07-27T08:17:49.203-06:002018-07-27T08:17:49.203-06:00Thank you answering my question. Any chance we co...Thank you answering my question. Any chance we could see a list of the top lineman who played in 5 and 6 man lines?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17740535139297668783noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4958997061437462003.post-37750442005532026152018-07-26T18:05:56.623-06:002018-07-26T18:05:56.623-06:00Reasonable people can disagree. Pro Scout Inc'...Reasonable people can disagree. Pro Scout Inc's system wasn't that kind to him, Buchsbaum was good at pointing out his flaws. I got lots of his full games, including all of 1985, many from 1984 and 1987-88. In 1984 he had 17.5 sacks and 2 tackles for loss. 1986 2.5 tackles for loss. He didn't make plays in the run game like some others. I think he's good, but if you think he grades out better than Selmon, Youngblood and Long, well, we're seeing different things.John Turneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06612706488776938253noreply@blogger.com