All-Decade Team "Repeaters": Did All of Them Fit?

OPINION
By John Turney

All-Decade Team 'Repeaters'

All-Decade repeaters, or players who were named to the Official HOF All-Decade Team more than once, rightly deserve a higher place in history than those who only made one team, so it is said. It connotes that a player was so dominant for a long period of time he had to be voted to both. Right?

Well, in my view, yes and no. Sure, in theory, but in practice, has it always worked? Not really.

The All-Decade teams have been voted on by the Hall of Fame voters since January, 1970. The 1970 HOF selection committee voted for the 1960s, 1950s, 1940s, 1930s, and 1920s all at the same meeting. Then, in January, 1980, they voted for the 1970s team, and so on. From 1970 to the present First- and Second-teams were listed, though it was a straight vote with the leaders being First-team and the runners-up the Second-team, i.e., no "Second-team" was listed on the ballot.

One case-in-point, in January, 1980, Earl Campbell was voted Second-team on the 1970s All-Deacade team despite playing in only 1978 and 1979. That seems to be too short a tenure for Campbell to be considered in our view.

It also begs the question, How many seasons should a player have to warrant "All-Decade" consideration in a given decade? Five? Six? Well, it can never be exact, and maybe one answer for all players may not be the solution.

In the 1960s, for example, Jim Brown played six seasons and Gale Sayers five and those players seem to fit ideally even though they played 60% or less of the decade. Brown retired while he still had lots of gas in the tank, but for that decade no one was really close to his accomplishments. Sayers was close, he was All-NFL five times in five years, and did it battling knee injuries.

However, since there are no official "mid-decade All-Deacde Teams" the voters are in a binary, either-or situation. Either he's in the 1960s or not. Either he's on the 1970s and so on. Sometimes either-or or black and white thinking can miss needed nuance.

So, we will try and list all the All-Decade repeaters and opine where they should fit and why mid-decade teams might fill in some gaps. Each of the players who have ever been named First- or Second-team All-Decade on one of the Official HOF NFL All-Decade teams is listed and commented upon:

Doug West Galleries

Dick Butkus was 1st team in both the 1960s and 1970s. If you are a voter in that room in the Summer of '69 Butkus, though he played just 4 years is the choice, his peak was so high that the lack of seasons in the decade is not relevant, really.

Also, it seems that middle linebacker was not on the ballot, just three spots for "linebacker" and as a result five linebackers were named and three of them were middle linebackers, including Tommy Nobis who had just completed his fourth seasons. Joe Schmidt, who was dominant in the early 1960s and still very good when he retired after the 1965 season (his sixth of the 1960s) was not mentioned. He was on the 1950s team, though.

Now, if one were in a meeting in January, 1980, picking a 1970s team, Butkus might not come to mind as he played only four seasons and the last couple he was really not himself due to really bad knee injuries. He got nine of the 25 votes. Jack Lambert got six votes. So, there are ten votes to other players. It is safe to assume Bill Bergy got some, maybe Lee Roy Jordan, or Willie Lanier. The honorable mentions have never been released.

So, in our view, Butkus really does not fit in the 1970s. He would, however, be a likely unanimous choice for a 1965-75 team, were there one (stay tuned).

Bobby Bell was an All-AFL All-Decade choice and a Second-team pick for the 1970s, garnering four votes. Like Butkus, the 1970s was not "his" decade. And, like Butkus a 1965-75 decade would fit ideally. Players like Isiah Robertson or Phil Villapiano or even a Chris Hanburger would have been better fits for the 1970s Second-team than Bell. The First-team 1970s would clearly be Jack Ham and Ted Hendricks.

Jim Bakken was All-Decade in the 1960s and Second-team for the 1970s. Frankly, we didn't look that closely at kickers for the 1960s, but Bakken is good choice for Second-team in the 1970s.

Gary Thomas

Willie Brown was All-AFL All-Decade, rightly so, and First-team 1970s. He was certainly more dominant the first half of decade that the last half, but he aged gracefully and seems like a very reasonable choice for both decades (and would be in high consideration for the 1965-75 team as well).

But, in our view he'd be maybe 4th in the 1970s behind Roger Wherli, Mel Blount and Lemar Parrish. But, he'd be slightly ahead of Jimmy Johnson, Emmitt Thomas, Mel Renfro and Lem Barney, all Hall of Famers who had excellent seasons in both the 1970s and the previous decade. 

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Bob Lilly was on the 1960s team and First-team 1970s. This would be the same analysis as Butkus and Bell. Lilly played five years of the 1970s, and his last two seasons, 1973 and 1974 he was lifted on passing downs. Not sure that he should he on the 1970s team. Alan Page and Joe Greene would be best fits for the 1970s First-team (Greene was First-team, Page Second-team).

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Merlin Olsen was on the 1960s team and Second-team for the 1970s. He played seven years in the 1970s and was a Pro Bowler for six of them, but he was more dominant in the 1965-75 decade and even the 1960s than the 1970s, though he was still good. Were we to pick Second-team defensive tackles for the 1970s, it would likely include Curly Culp at one of the spots and one of couple of top players who battled injuries: Wally Chambers and Jerry Sherk. We'd then shift Lilly and Olsen to a mythical 1965-75 team.

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John Hannah was Second-team on the 1970s and First-team in the 1980s. Again, a perfect fit for 1975-75, but at his peak, he was the best guard for the 1980s, but there might me a couple of guards in the 1980s that played nine or ten years that could come close.

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Walter Payton was First-team on the 1970s and the 1980s team. Though this will be controversial, I thought the 1970s First-team running backs should have been O.J. Simpson and Franco Harris and the Second-team backs Chuck Foreman and then Payton. Earl Campbell would easily be on the pro forma 1975-85 team. And he's also clear choice for the 1980s team. Pretty impressive.

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Ted Hendricks was First-team on both the 1970s and 1980s iterations. The 1970s team, 100% yes. The 1980s? No. 1975-85? Probably. I just cannot see him taking the place of a Clay Matthews, to name one excellent 1980s outside linebacker who was passed over.

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Jack Lambert was Second-team in 1970s and Second-team in the 1980s. In the 1980s he played 5 years, though 1984 he barely played. He'd be one of the two ILBers on a 1975-85 team, though, but doesn't fit the 1980s team profile and really, should have been voted to it.

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Jerry Rice, again, this will draw criticism, but he was First-team for both the 1980s and 1990s. In the 1980s, he was certainly dominant from 1986-89, but were his four dominant years better than someone else's close-to-dominant 8-9-10 years? Tough call. Rice is the clear choice for 1990s and also 1985-95 (were there one), but 1980s? No sale.

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Reggie White was First-team 1980s and First-team 1990s. Same exact analysis as Jerry Rice.

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Bruce Smith. Second-team 1980s, First-team 1990s. Same exact analysis as Reggie White.

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Gary Zimmerman Second-team 1980s, First-team 1990s. Same exact analysis as Bruce Smith. Unless USFL honors count, he's not a fit for the 1980s team, starting in 1986. But would be perfect for the 1985-95 team.

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Ronnie Lott He was the only choice as a 1980s team member but not as a 1990s team member (even as a second teamer. He only played half a decade and even though he was effective from 1990-92 he wasn't the star he'd been in the 1980s.

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Billy "White Shoes" Johnson, Second-team in 1970s (lost out to Rick Upchurch) and First-team 1980s. Like with Jim Bakken have not looked at this closely enough to comment.

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Morten Andersen was First-team in 1980s and in the 1990s. Seems reasonable, but have not looked at kickers. However, we always thought Nick Lowery was a top 1980s kicker and he didn't get enough mention. We think he'd be the best pick for First-team 1980s kicker.

Gary Anderson Second-team in 1980s and again in the 1990s. Again, have not looked into this.

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Willie Roaf was First-team in 1990s and Second-team 2000s. Seems reasonable and impossible to critize. We have him as a Second-team pick on the 1995-2005 team.

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Larry Allen Second-team in both 1990s and 2000s. He would be #1 guard from 1995-2005 without question.

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Warren Sapp was Second-team in 1990s and First-team in 2000s. We already opined that Sapp didn't belong on the 1990s team, but that 1995-2005 was "his" decade and would be the top tackle, along with Bryant Young for that decade.

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Call Jon Gruden. Peyton Manning is NOT "The Sheriff"

OFFBEAT
By John Turney

 Apparently another previous Colt QB was. And he had a mullet.

Seven Days to Sunday: Crisis Week with the New York Giants (1968)

LOOKING BACK

By Chris Willis, NFL Films

Seven Days to Sunday: Crisis Week with the New York Giants was written by Eliot Asinof and published in 1968 by Simon and Schuster. If you don’t know the name, Asinof is most famous for writing Eight Men Out, the definitive account of the 1919 Chicago Black Sox Scandal that was published in 1963. Twenty-five years later in 1988 Asinof helped Hollywood director John Sayles in turning his book into a movie that starred D.B. Sweeney (Joe Jackson), John Cusack (Buck Weaver), David Strathaim (Eddie Cicotte), Charlie Sheen (Happy Felsh) and Sayles himself as famed newspaper writer Ring Lardnar.

Asinof was born on July 13, 1919 in New York City. Growing up in the Big Apple Asinof worked at his father’s tailoring shop before graduating from Swarthmore College in 1940. He then spent the next two years playing minor league baseball in the Phillies organization and batted .296, had 17 RBIs and 47 runs over the two summers. He then left baseball to enter the Army during World War II. 

When the war ended Asinof gave up the ball diamond and began his writing career. His first book was titled Man on Spikes, a novel about a friend Mickey Rutner, who played minor league baseball too and appeared in the major leagues. It was published in 1955 by McGraw-Hill. After his success with Man on Spikes Asinof was recruited to write the story of the 1919 Chicago Black Sox Scandal. He spent three years researching and writing the book. It became a classic and an instant best-seller. 

But five years after Eight Men Out was published Asinof wrote a football book- Seven Days to Sunday- a week with the New York Giants during the 1967 season. At first, Asinof wanted to follow one NFL team for a whole season. Following the teams’ every move. Most importantly, he wanted to be able to go anywhere, at any time. He wanted total access. That was the plan. Since he was living in New York and the New York Football Giants were his favorite squad, he knew which team he wanted to ask.

Plus, in 1965 Asinof had written an article for New York Times Magazine (December 12^th issue) about Giants head coach Allie Sherman titled “Big Shrimp of Pro Football.” He spent time with Sherman and his wife Joan for his roughly 8-page article. Already having a connection with the Giants Asinof knew who he could ask for this special access. But the process of getting to that one specific week in ’67 Asinof first had to convince another important person with the Giants to let him document a season. That was going to be a big chore.

Wellington Mara by Merv Corning

In 1965 the Giants were coming off a 7-7 season under Sherman- who had just finished his 5^th season at the helm. Giants’ owner Wellington Mara was happy to give his coach another year, since Sherman had guided the Giants to three straight NFL Championship Game appearances (1961-1963). Although all three were losses. It was under these circumstances that Asinof approached the Giants with his big idea. Asinof wrote in his Introduction:

    “Nevertheless, one blustering winter day in 1966, I mustered the courage to visit the Giants office at 10 Columbus Circle. It was, I confess, immediately intimidating, for you to be greeted by a series of huge floor-to-ceiling panels showing ferocious action shots of Rosey Brown, Tucker Frederickson, Y.A. Title, Frank Gifford, giant figures, larger than life, towering over all the little people who dare enter.
    I presented myself to Wellington Mara and Allie Sherman, a humble fan in search of a story. I told them what was in my mind, this gnawing hungry for intimacy. A fan’s book, written by a fan for fans. A labor of love, if you please. I made it clear, however, that it was worth doing only if it could be done thoroughly, no rooms barred, no meetings sealed off, nothing hidden. Absolutely nothing, I emphasized.

    “That’s an extraordinary request,” Mr. Mara said. “Nobody ever gets that kind of inside look.”

    “It would be the very guts of my book,” I replied. “Well, will think it over,” he said.

     I went about my work and forgot about it- or tried to- never expecting to be accepted. Then, a week later, Mara called.

    “Welcome to the family,” he said.

Starting with the opening of training camp in July of 1966 Asinof moved freely through the inner sanctums of the Giants organization, having access to coaches, players and front office personnel. Over the next two years Asinof recorded and observed the day-to-day operations of an NFL team.  He witnessed rookies being cut, to head coach Allie Sherman staying up all night game planning, to game days at Yankee Stadium.

Allie Sherman

During the 1966 season Asinof witnessed the worse campaign in Giants history. Sherman guided his squad to a 1-12-1 record and the defense allowed a NFL record 501 points in just 14 games (an average of 35.8 point per game). They are still the only NFL team to surrender over 500 points in a 14 game schedule. On November 27, 1966 the Giants played in the NFL’s highest scoring game of all-time- still a NFL record- in a 72-41 loss to the Washington Redskins.

Maybe this is why Asinof came back in 1967. He was not ready to write about one of the worse season in NFL history for any franchise. So he returned to the inner sanctum of Sherman’s team and witnessed more of the going-on of a NFL team. Eventually Asinof had one big problem. How to construct his book. What would all of this access lead to? Then in the middle of the 1967 season an idea came to him. “A crisis week.” Asinof wrote:

    “A week that might turn the season, one way or the other, to a divisional championship or another sickening fall to the cellar.”

Fran Tarkenton

Asinof picked the Giants tenth game of the season against the Pittsburgh Steelers to focus on. The Giants had just lost back-to-back road games against the Minnesota Vikings (24-27) and Chicago Bears (7-34) and were in 3^rd place in the newly named Century Division (after the announcement of the AFL-NFL merger) with a 4-5 record. Asinof focused his story on the week from Monday November 13 through Sunday November 19.   

Seven Days was written in chronological order of the week, Monday to Sunday, with “Monday Again” as the final chapter. Throughout the week Asinof sat in on meetings with coaches and players. One of the more interesting moments is when Sherman meets with quarterback Fran Tarkenton, something they did every Tuesday nights during the season, and goes over the game plan for the week. The two go over the up-coming defensive unit; study formations; analyze pass coverage: and note frequency and manner of blitzing.

As the week goes along Asniof gives background and backstory information on players and coaches. Some of the more detailed and better bios are on Sherman, Fran Tarkenton and Homer Jones, as well as several conversations with Wellington Mara. But Mara definitely stays in the background and away from Asinof for the most part. The author spends more time in meetings, the training room, on the practice field, in press conferences and the locker room.

Homer Jones

Asniof also retells what training camp is like and how the team moves into a team hotel on Saturday night before the game against the Steelers. Taking up to twenty rooms on the 16^th floor of the Summit Hotel in New York, the Giants watch the big USC-UCLA game (featuring O.J. Simpson vs Garry Beban), while some players play gin rummy (Joe Morrison, Earl Morrall, Tucker Fredrickson, Bill Swain). The squad then has its team dinner loaded with shrimp cocktail, prime ribs, baked potatoes, green beans, rolls, pastry, coffee and milk. Inside access that not too many people outside of a NFL team witness and Asinof had a front seat.

On game day Asinof puts the reader on the team bus to the stadium; in the pre-game locker room and trainer’s table; warm-ups on the field; the action on the bench and on the gridiron of Yankee Stadium; as well as the post-game locker room. Asinof describes “Sunday” in 64 pages- the Giants hard-fought 28-20 victory over the Steelers. But it wasn’t enough as Sherman’s boys finished the season with another 7-7 record and two games behind the Browns (9-5) in the Century Division.
Seven Days to Sunday was released in hardback for $5.95 in the fall of 1968 by Simon and Schuster to brisk sales and good reviews. The Kirkus Reviews (October 23^rd) wrote:

    “No, Asinof isn’t a Paper Lion in training, nor is he as snappy a writer as Plimpton but there isn’t much he doesn’t know or like about the New York Giants, and he sat it out play-by-play with them for two years. The Seven Days to Sunday he records is the crisis week in 1967 before the game which could make or break the season. The Giants suffered a sloppy defeat, ignominiously dumping them into third place the day before, from the Chicago Bears; they faced the Pittsburgh Steelers and four more tough games in a have-win situation. And the Giants’ morale had been cut down to pygmy size. This follows the emotional and tactical arrangements by coach Allie Sherman as he tried to get his fumbling football players together again. A locker-room log that is another intimate, exciting look at our newest national pastime.”

Heywood Hale Broun of New York magazine (November 11, 1968) glowed, saying “Asinof’s book captures rhythms and moods of the pro football players in a game dominated by a distilled productive hysteria,” and Bill Stern, famed sports broadcaster for NBC and ABC, claimed it was “the best sports book I have ever read,” while Murray Kempton of the New York Post wrote, “A quite marvelous book.”

A year later an excerpt of the book appeared in the November 1969 issue of Quarterback magazine- 14 pages in length- that kept the book alive as the paperback version was released.

Seven Days to Sunday is an excellent look inside how a NFL team operated and functioned in the NFL during the 1960’s. Unlike more recent work such as John Feinstein’s Next Man Up, Asinof puts himself in the story, which Feinstein never does in his books- a technique I like better. The small interaction between Asinof and the coaches and players is a little distracting and uneventful, but not enough to take away from the rest of the inside access he was granted by the Giants.

After Seven Days to Sunday Elliot Asinof never wrote another football book. He died in 2008 at the age of 88.