tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4958997061437462003.post4551088335200804100..comments2024-03-28T10:36:15.660-06:00Comments on Pro Football Journal: SCIENTIFIC FOOTBALL MAN: Blanton Collier and his NFL Title Game Achievement. John Turneyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06612706488776938253noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4958997061437462003.post-27941245556886688372022-02-03T00:22:12.146-07:002022-02-03T00:22:12.146-07:00Great achievment Blanton Collier. Feeling proud fo...Great achievment <a href="https://bottlebroz.com/collections/blantons" rel="nofollow">Blanton</a> Collier. Feeling proud for you.Bottle Brozhttps://bottlebroz.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4958997061437462003.post-51917739018232057342019-12-29T10:10:23.293-07:002019-12-29T10:10:23.293-07:00Your opinions and knowledge of football are great....Your opinions and knowledge of football are great. I hope you read and post on other sites like Talkoffame network/Maven and Zoneblitz.com<br />Some passionate fans on those sites as well.<br /><br />Though many people think Brown is the best coach ever, like I posted on this site before, it's staggering the number of great players, he either gave away, didn't believe in, or didn't want to sign and develop. Too spoiled off Graham I think, but a true innovator.<br /><br />Favre and Manning we're great QBs, I just believe they didn't win enough to be on this list, though great passers.<br />To leave off Luckman, Layne, Van Brocklin, Starr, Bradshaw, Young, Brees and Rodgers is TOUGH to do.Brian wolfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03887742217457349700noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4958997061437462003.post-17849715243983736512019-12-29T09:40:48.706-07:002019-12-29T09:40:48.706-07:00Brian, it is heartening to encounter another true ...Brian, it is heartening to encounter another true Colt supporter....<br />1. to answer your question, Ed Brown wasn't on the post-season roster.<br />Quoting Associated Press reporter Gordon Beard from his Tuesday Dec. 21 dispatch (I'm transcribing directly from the pasted page in my childhood Colts scrapbook) "Matte, a converted halfback was guaranteed the starting job in Sundays playoff the the Western Conference title when NFL owners declined Monday to make quarterbacks Ed Brown and George Haffner eligibile for the Green Bay contest."....."at least I know where I stand now....all alone." (Matte)<br />2. with respect, Weeb is not the greatest coach ever....Belichek's body of work has moved him very very high into the rankings (I personally have him at #2 for numerous reasons, but the Greatest Coach ever is <br />Paul Brown. In addition to his AAFC and NFL titles, he coached or had as long-time assistants: Eubank (3 NFL titles), Collier (1 NFL title), Noll (4 titles), Shula (2), Walsh (4), and Lou Saban's pre-merger 2 in the AFL.....14 NFL titles in addition to his own 3? No one in history comes close<br />3. I have a HUGE peeve against "owners" in the Hof...….<br />4. "NFL all-100 team": no posts on this blog yet, but Brett Favre over Norm Van Brocklin? you gotta be kiddin me.<br />4a. top 100 players in NFL history and no Bronko…..what the hell?JHoltgymhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13751235587015111105noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4958997061437462003.post-71504038988369913512019-12-28T20:42:39.019-07:002019-12-28T20:42:39.019-07:00Here's my question, JHoltgym...
Why didn'...Here's my question, JHoltgym...<br /><br />Why didn't Shula use Ed Brown to QB the Colts instead of Matte during the playoff with GB in 65 ?<br /><br />When Couzzo went down with injury after Johnny U, Shula picked up Ed Brown and his strong arm and the Colts won their last regular season game, to force the playoff with GB. If Brown plays, maybe the game doesn't come down to a Packer FG, that was declared "good" to tie the game and force overtime.<br />At least if they could have survived GB, Brown would have had a better chance to beat the Browns, than Matte could have.<br /><br />I can imagine the history if...<br />Baltimore had beaten Cleveland in 64...<br />Or the Packers and Lombardi in 65...<br />Or the Jets and Ewbank in 68/69...<br /><br />The Colts not the Pack, would have been team of the 60s...<br /><br />Shula and Rosenbloom may have stayed with the Colts, and no Irsay and no Indianapolis...<br /><br />No perfect season for the Miami Dolphins or two SB's...<br /><br />No celebration of Joe Namath or the Jets. <br /><br />No revenge for Weeb Ewbank against Rosenbloom for firing him at the end of 1962.<br /><br />Now I am rambling...Brian wolfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03887742217457349700noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4958997061437462003.post-89019033411581858082019-12-28T16:45:15.423-07:002019-12-28T16:45:15.423-07:00Look, we are both BALTIMORE Colts fans...I think w...Look, we are both BALTIMORE Colts fans...I think with reservations, that Weeb Ewbank was the best NFL coach ever, but Carrol Rosenbloom was a character. <br /><br />Yes, the Colts gave the city it's SB in 70/71 but that's because of Johnny Unitas. Rosenbloom lost interest after that, while Shula has a perfect season in Miami.<br /><br />I will always appreciate what Carrol did in hiring Weeb and Don Kellet, building this team, and making them America's Team, but his handling of Ewbank and Shula, and letting Irsay take over this beloved team, will always get my goat.Brian wolfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03887742217457349700noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4958997061437462003.post-4518113973367875052019-12-28T10:02:04.178-07:002019-12-28T10:02:04.178-07:00ahhhhhh, Brian, now you've done and set me off...ahhhhhh, Brian, now you've done and set me off.....in addition to the two games identified above, there is of course the Tom Matte/Don Chandler missed field goal playoff game of 1965 (12/26)<br />that kept the Colts from a rematch with the Browns and then of course, the penultimate "on the doorstep of history" last game of the regular season in 1967 when 11-0-2 Baltimore had to beat 10-1-2 Rams or fail to make the playoffs completely allowing a 9-4-1 Green Bay team to move forward and go down (somewhat "asteriskly" in history as one of the all-time dynasties.....think of what pro football history might have looked like...……...Christ, half a century later, and i'm still upset about it......I need a "normal" life (but LOVE this website!)JHoltgymhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13751235587015111105noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4958997061437462003.post-71104784493097123402019-12-27T15:18:23.349-07:002019-12-27T15:18:23.349-07:00That's why I don't want Rosenbloom in the ...That's why I don't want Rosenbloom in the HOF. It's bad enough that he controlled Rozelle like a puppet master, especially in regards to his own gambling scandals and the Don Shula compensation for going to Miami, but snookering a non football owner like Irsay into trading the Rams for the Colts, a move that boils a Weeb Ewbank<br />Colts fan like myself.<br /><br />Though I admire what Shula did with the Colts, this 64 Championship game result was the first of many big games, Shula would fail to win.<br /> When Weeb got his revenge on Shula and Rosenbloom in the SB, Carrol then soured on Shula, like he had did with Ewbank earlier, and the BALTIMORE Colts suffered for it.<br /><br />Brian wolfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03887742217457349700noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4958997061437462003.post-33192953671994458192019-12-27T13:54:29.999-07:002019-12-27T13:54:29.999-07:00thanks a lot TJ.....as a lifelong Baltimore (NOT t...thanks a lot TJ.....as a lifelong Baltimore (NOT the IndyIrsays)Colts fan, that Dec 27 was one of the worst 2 days in my fan-life (Jan. 12, 1969 of course the other)…...perhaps you could do a followup next year on Dec 27 1959 when Gino Marchetti ran wild in the NY backfield?......seriously, love your work, remember that photo of you with the Raymond Berry jersey? what was historically inaccurate about it?<br />JHoltgymhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13751235587015111105noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4958997061437462003.post-36867950000674926062019-12-27T13:27:52.295-07:002019-12-27T13:27:52.295-07:00Great look back...
The wind really affected Johnn...Great look back...<br /><br />The wind really affected Johnny U that day. Warfield is my favorite receiver of all time. Collier, I believe should be in the HOF.Brian wolfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03887742217457349700noreply@blogger.com