tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4958997061437462003.post4665767174293530459..comments2024-03-27T22:24:31.871-06:00Comments on Pro Football Journal: Proscout Inc. Era—Top Players Not Yet in the Hall of FameJohn Turneyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06612706488776938253noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4958997061437462003.post-86228005024265123352019-07-13T17:53:59.244-06:002019-07-13T17:53:59.244-06:00Couldn't agree more on Branch Gradishar(especi...Couldn't agree more on Branch Gradishar(especially) Jacoby Boselli as well as Cromwell. Always thought Cliff Harris was outstanding. Still cant understand Ken Anderson not getting a mention. Would be interested to see how he compared with Griese for example. He always seemed as good if not better just didn't have as good a team around him Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4958997061437462003.post-59945276263348521602019-07-11T21:36:45.702-06:002019-07-11T21:36:45.702-06:00of those guys listed i would endorse Branch Gradi...of those guys listed i would endorse Branch Gradishar Hayes Jacoby Pearson Shell Whiterewing84https://www.blogger.com/profile/12683133489219176880noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4958997061437462003.post-11781696733464959892019-07-11T21:33:37.078-06:002019-07-11T21:33:37.078-06:004 pro bowls and 2 all pro selections4 pro bowls and 2 all pro selectionsrewing84https://www.blogger.com/profile/12683133489219176880noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4958997061437462003.post-72388263765274131282019-07-11T11:42:08.252-06:002019-07-11T11:42:08.252-06:00yes, Mann very solid...Young, yes, blue vs run as ...yes, Mann very solid...Young, yes, blue vs run as rook. John Turneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06612706488776938253noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4958997061437462003.post-489330721953103672019-07-11T11:40:44.016-06:002019-07-11T11:40:44.016-06:00He's right, though. Those guys do not leap out...He's right, though. Those guys do not leap out on filmJohn Turneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06612706488776938253noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4958997061437462003.post-20504646549361274902019-07-11T10:51:04.163-06:002019-07-11T10:51:04.163-06:00its unclear which side you watch if you think thes...its unclear which side you watch if you think these guys don't belongJHoltgymhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13751235587015111105noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4958997061437462003.post-63479839129566837662019-07-10T08:43:03.751-06:002019-07-10T08:43:03.751-06:00Mann was known for being a very tough run player c...Mann was known for being a very tough run player correct?<br /><br />A few more thoughts/questions:<br /><br />Was Bryant Young a blue player in his rookie season?<br /><br />I actually have Dwight Stephenson bests year as his 82 season. He had the best run blocking grade of his career for me that yearalen baileyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09948457335469361491noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4958997061437462003.post-85953177846954289772019-07-09T21:31:07.369-06:002019-07-09T21:31:07.369-06:00Charles Mann was not an average player. I don'...Charles Mann was not an average player. I don't have the info in front of me but I would guess he was in five Pro Bowls and may have had some sort of All-Pro recognition three times. Big Leaguehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14200247221382918091noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4958997061437462003.post-26563283833011624892019-07-09T17:21:49.121-06:002019-07-09T17:21:49.121-06:00I'll give you some 50's overrated if you l...I'll give you some 50's overrated if you like, this might hurt a little. Ernie Stautner, Sam Huff, Art Donovan, and as you can tell I only watch one side of the ball. Nick Whttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10280039610448626157noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4958997061437462003.post-20330447530924402372019-07-09T14:48:13.036-06:002019-07-09T14:48:13.036-06:00This is awesome stuff that just adds to a players ...This is awesome stuff that just adds to a players resume (like # times 1st team all-pro, 2nd team all-pro, pro-bowl, etc.) This is in response to the person who called BS. This has value; if you disagree than weight it thusly (assign low weight to it). The trick is in the weighting of these honors. <br />I second the request to see who these folks believe is overrated. I'd also like to know if they have any comments on some of the 60's stars on your decade team (Olsen vs Lilly perhaps). John Steelehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05568702690028419750noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4958997061437462003.post-69050766764185527732019-07-09T14:03:13.301-06:002019-07-09T14:03:13.301-06:00Very interesting, some of these people I didn'...Very interesting, some of these people I didn't know much aboutFelix Collinsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4958997061437462003.post-44526012121537416372019-07-09T13:54:04.723-06:002019-07-09T13:54:04.723-06:00Chuck Howley.Chuck Howley.Rickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01854622486397914173noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4958997061437462003.post-36768902677297605932019-07-09T13:28:49.865-06:002019-07-09T13:28:49.865-06:00Pearson, Branch, Carmichael & Harold Jackson: ...Pearson, Branch, Carmichael & Harold Jackson: put 'em all in.stevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01896323040892760602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4958997061437462003.post-65724612969419524682019-07-09T12:50:36.689-06:002019-07-09T12:50:36.689-06:00not poorly, just overrated---compared to what many...not poorly, just overrated---compared to what many thought. He graded well, just not "blue" year after yearJohn Turneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06612706488776938253noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4958997061437462003.post-82126137341944552382019-07-09T10:20:10.235-06:002019-07-09T10:20:10.235-06:00Mike Kenn was a monster for years and years and it...Mike Kenn was a monster for years and years and its shameful that he's been overlooked.....of course I don't have the comprehensive film-study<br />that's being identified here, but Cortez Kennedy graded poorly? one can't imagine the hole in those Seattle defenses if he were missing<br />JHoltgymhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13751235587015111105noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4958997061437462003.post-73468872842625408462019-07-09T06:38:14.066-06:002019-07-09T06:38:14.066-06:00I agree with most all of these players being in th...I agree with most all of these players being in the HOF. Really appreciate the research you guys do here.<br /><br />-Did Bob Kuechenberg and Bob Young have the misfortune of having their greatest seasons before the PSI era began in earnest?<br /><br />-A bit surprised we dont see Albert Lewis here.<br />alen baileyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09948457335469361491noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4958997061437462003.post-4316625168044516702019-07-08T22:41:29.686-06:002019-07-08T22:41:29.686-06:00So we are supposed to ignore what we all know and ...So we are supposed to ignore what we all know and think that some no-name players or average players like Charles Mann were great? We just trust that this guy says Don Macek was that good and not mediocre? I call BS.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4958997061437462003.post-3070252315855164232019-07-08T21:01:33.599-06:002019-07-08T21:01:33.599-06:00give you a few: Cortez Kennedy, Faneca Fralicgive you a few: Cortez Kennedy, Faneca FralicJohn Turneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06612706488776938253noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4958997061437462003.post-86024260744204256222019-07-08T20:59:39.297-06:002019-07-08T20:59:39.297-06:00Great article as usual...
Always thought the SD O...Great article as usual...<br /><br />Always thought the SD Offensive Line of the 80s was way underrated, and that Macek, White, Wilkerson and Washington had great cases for the Hall, but some people felt Fouts quick release of the ball was the key to their success. True or not, these guys were great run blockers as well and everyone from Don Woods to Capalletti, to Muncie, Brooks and James ran with purpose.<br /><br />It's hard to believe Shell, Kenn, Gradishar and Jacoby aren't already in the Hall but safeties and offensive lineman have always been under represented.<br /><br />On the flip side, could you guys ever post overrated players that graded so poorly from PSI, that it was a wonder they had much of a career at all ? Or would it be to disrespectful to the former players ?<br />Brian wolfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03887742217457349700noreply@blogger.com