tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4958997061437462003.post8734640781521410879..comments2024-03-28T17:35:48.164-06:00Comments on Pro Football Journal: Follow Up: Terrell Suggs John Turneyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06612706488776938253noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4958997061437462003.post-72821449569892933292019-11-14T18:13:05.391-07:002019-11-14T18:13:05.391-07:00Suggs is not a compiler in my book. He may not be ...Suggs is not a compiler in my book. He may not be a tier one Hall of Famer but he certainly deserves induction.Big Leaguehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14200247221382918091noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4958997061437462003.post-2320570727032025452019-11-14T06:30:56.207-07:002019-11-14T06:30:56.207-07:00TO some, maybe. But to me, stats are part of the e...TO some, maybe. But to me, stats are part of the equation. And guys who play a long time compile stats. <br /><br />My definition of a "compiler" is someone who is very good, but also lasts a long time and become "great" because they compile stats.<br /><br />A player like Peppers or SUggs, to varying degrees, were Defensive Player of the Year (Suggs) and have rings (Suggs) and/or were 3-4 times First-team All-Pro (Peppers) and 9 Pro Bowls (Peppers).<br /><br />So, Suggs and Peppers were considered among the best at their peak. And then after that high peak compiled.<br /><br />Gore was never higher than 2nd team All-Pro (just one time--not that great) and 5 Pro Bowls (which is decent). <br /><br />But then, due to great health was a productive back after his peak (which was a good peak, but not a great peak)<br /><br />Since leaving SF Gore has average 3.9 a carry. League average for that time is 4.2 <br /><br />Gore has intanglibles worth mentioning, he's a good pass pro. He was okay as a receiver. He runs super hard. His best intangible is the "eye test". <br /><br />So, I don't thinl a peak player like a Willie Mays, can be a compiler because during his peak he was usually an MVP-candidate. And then as he got older, he did compiled, but that does not make him a compiler.<br /><br />Harold Baines, was never an All-time great.. but he did last a long time and was servicable and was a compiler.<br /><br />Suggs and Peppers had a pretty high "peak" and Gore not so much and that is the difference in my view.John Turneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06612706488776938253noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4958997061437462003.post-4386558023755693232019-11-13T17:23:47.759-07:002019-11-13T17:23:47.759-07:00Suggs definitely has a great resume and sack/tackl...Suggs definitely has a great resume and sack/tackles for loss numbers, but let's flip the coin, like Gore as a RB, is he a great player, or compiler due to playing so long ? Same argument with Julius Peppers...they all played, and didn't ride the bench, so they were all HOF type players. Though others could see them as "compilers".Brian wolfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03887742217457349700noreply@blogger.com