LOOKING BACK
(Part four of an ongoing series)
By Chris Willis, NFL Films
The
National Football League didn’t recognize a Most Valuable Player Award until
1938 when Joe F. Carr, President of the league at that time, announced that the
NFL would officially name a MVP that season. Giants’ center-linebacker Mel Hein
won the inaugural award receiving a watch at midfield right before the kickoff
of the 1938 NFL Championship Game.
Last year, Pro Football Journal looked at four
retroactive MVP races in three parts: To refresh your memory here were the
previous MVPs:
1930-
Verne Lewellen, Green Bay Packers, End (Part 3)
1931-
Johnny “Blood” McNally, Green Bay Packers, Wing-Back (Part 3)
1933-
Ken Strong, New York Giants, Fullback (Part 2)
1936-
Dutch Clark, Detroit Lions, Quarterback-Halfback (Part 1)
In
this installment, I’ll look at the MVP race for the 1934 NFL season.
One
of the big off-season stories in the NFL in 1934 was the sale of the Portsmouth
Spartans to radio mogul George A. Richards, who moved the franchise north to
Detroit and renamed them the Lions. His squad would have a big say in who would
win the NFL title in 1934.
In a
decade dominated by rushing the 1934 NFL season was no different. The ten NFL
teams (we are combing St. Louis-Cincinnati) played a variety of schedules
because of a few games being canceled. The Bears, Lions, and Giants all played
13 games; while the Redskins and Pirates played 12; and the Dodgers, Cardinals,
Eagles and Cincy-St. Louis squads played 11 each. So sifting through each
team’s games and play on the field will be accounted.
1934 NFL Standings
Eastern Division
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W-L
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Pts. For
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Pts. Against
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New York Giants
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8-5
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147
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107
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Boston Redskins
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6-6
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107
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94
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Brooklyn Dodgers
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4-7
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61
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153
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Philadelphia Eagles
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4-7
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127
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85
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Pittsburgh Pirates
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2-10
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51
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206
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Western Division
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W-L
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Pts. For
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Pts. Against
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Chicago Bears
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13-0
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286
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86
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Detroit Lions
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10-3
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238
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59
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Green Bay Packers
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7-6
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156
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112
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Chicago Cardinals
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5-6
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80
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84
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*St. Louis Gunners
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1-2
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27
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61
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*Cincinnati Reds
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0-8
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10
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243
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*Reds
folded after eight games; replaced by St. Louis Gunners.
NFL
teams in 1934 totaled 16,967 rushing yards on 4,441 carries (a 3.8 average)
with 101 touchdowns. While the passing statistics are downright awful. NFL signal
callers threw 1,606 passes and completed just 505, a completion percentage
of 31 percent, for 7,117 yards.
The
more glaring stat is the comparison of passing touchdowns to interceptions.
There were only 56 touchdowns compared to a whopping 206 interceptions. Despite
the new rules implemented for the 1933 season (hash marks and passing legal
anywhere behind the line of scrimmage), the passing game was still a work in
progress for most teams in 1934.
Every
team threw at least fifteen interceptions with the Brooklyn Dodgers throwing a
league-high 26 picks- which probably tells why they won only four games all
season and scored the third lowest points in the league with 61 behind the
Pirates (51) and the Cincy-St. Louis combo (37).
Passing
Packers
quarterback Arnie Herber was heads and shoulders above his counterparts in
passing. He led the NFL in attempts (115), completions (42), passing yards (799)
and touchdowns (8). Herber did throw 12 interceptions and some of his turnovers
hurt his team as he guided the Packers to a 7-6 record. Harry Newman guided his
Giants to an Eastern Division title (8-5) but wasn’t quite as sharp as Herber.
He threw for nearly 400 yards but only 1 touchdown compared to a rather
shocking 12 interceptions. Just like Herber some of his turnovers hurt the team
in the win-loss column. Newman did make up for it in the rushing department as
he carried the ball an amazing 141 times (led the NFL with 14.1 carries a game)
for 483 yards and three touchdowns in 10 games. Making him one of the NFL’s best double
threats in 1934. Herber had just 33
rushing yards on 37 carries.
In
the end, Herber remained the best passer in the NFL in 1934, but Newman was the
better all-around player. His passing and running led his team to the division
title and that edges his name ahead of Herber in the MVP race.
In
Detroit, the great Dutch Clark put up some underrated numbers. He completed 23
of 50 passes. That doesn’t sound like much but when the league was completing
just 31 percent of their passes, Clark was around 46 percent and although he
didn’t throw a touchdown pass he didn’t turn the ball over quite as much as the
other passers in the league with just three interceptions.
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1934 NFL Passing Stats
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1)
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Arnie Herber, Green
Bay
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42 of 115 passes, 799
yards
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8 TDs/12 INTs
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2)
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Warren Heller,
Pittsburgh
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31 of 112 passes, 511
yards
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2 TDs/ 15 INTs
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3)
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Harry Newman, New York
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35 of 93 passes, 391
yards
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1 TD/ 12 INTs
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4)
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Dutch Clark, Detroit
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23 of 50 passes, 383
yards
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0 TDs/ 3 INTs
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5)
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Ed Matesic,
Philadelphia
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20 of 60 passes, 278
yards
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2 TDs/ 5 INTs
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Receiving
With
the below-average passing stats in 1934 no receiver separated himself that
season. Eagles end Joe Carter was the best of the bunch finishing second in the
NFL in receiving yards (238) and first in catches (16 tied with Red Badgro of
the Giants) and receiving touchdowns with 4. Not numbers or play worthy of an
MVP discussion.
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1934 NFL Receiving
Stats
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1)
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Harry Ebding, Detroit
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10 rec, 264 yards,
26.4 avg
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2 TDs
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2)
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Joe Carter,
Philadelphia
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16 rec, 238 yards,
14.9 avg
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4 TDs
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3)
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Red Badgro, New York
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16 rec, 206 yards,
12.9 avg
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1 TD
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4)
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Ben Smith, Pittsburgh
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14 rec, 218 yards,
15.6 avg
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0 TD
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5)
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Jack Grossman,
Brooklyn
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11 rec, 161 yards,
14.6 avg
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1 TD
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Here’s
where the MVP race heats up. In the end the contenders really come down to two
teams (and three players) who clearly dominated the NFL’s regular season in
1934. The Chicago Bears, who finished the regular season undefeated at 13-0 and
the Detroit Lions, who finished second in the Western Division behind the Bears
at 10-3 (more on their match-ups later) were the class of the NFL. Playing many
games with the lead the two teams finished number one and two in the NFL in rushing.
Team Rushing Stats
Chicago
Bears- 567 carries for 2,847 (5.0
average); 20 TDs
Detroit
Lions- 632 carries for 2,640
(4.3 average); 27 TDs
New
York Giants- 567 carries for 1,935 (3.4
average); 12 TDs
Philly
Eagles- 460 carries for 1,876
(4.1 average); 11 TDs
Boston
Redskins- 415 carries for 1,688 (4.0
average); 10 TD
The
Bears rushed for an impressive 2,847
yards on 567 carries, averaging an incredible 5.0 yards per rush. They
rushed for 20 touchdowns, only bested by the Lions impressive 27 TDs. The Lions
rushed for 2,640 yards for an average of 4.3-yard per carry but did it on an
NFL-high 632 carries. Potsy Clark’s Lions definitely liked to keep the ball on
the ground as his team threw just 142 passes- only the Cardinals (132) and the
Redskins (138) threw less.
Dutch
Clark was the Lions' best rusher finishing 3rd in the NFL in rushing
with 763 yards on a modest 123 attempts (his attempts per game were just 8th
in the league), averaging a nice 6.2 yards per carry, and scored 8 rushing TDs.
Clark did not play in the NFL in 1933, opting to coach college basketball in
Colorado, but didn’t miss a beat returning to play for the Lions in ’34.
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Lions Halfback-Quarterback Dutch Clark carrying football against the Green Bay Packers
Credit: PFJ
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The
13-game schedule definitely contributed to the Bears and Lions great rushing
stats, but the Bears rushing season was more than that. To put it in more
historical terms the Bears 1934 rushing season was one of the best rushing
years in NFL history. Besides the Detroit Lions rushing for 2,885 yards in 1936
no other NFL team surpassed the Bears total of 2,847 (13-game season) until the
1972 Miami Dolphins rushed for a NFL single-season high of 2,960 in 14-games.
In
Bears history only the 1984 Bears team rushed for more yards than the 1934
version and they did it by carrying the ball over 100 more times in three more
games.
Bears Team History (1920-2015):
Single-Season Record, Rushing Yards
1984
Bears: 674 carries for 2,974 rushing
yards (16 games)
1934
Bears: 567 carries for 2,847 rushing
yards (13 games)
1977
Bears: 599 carries for 2,811 rushing
yards (14 games)
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Newspaper Headline Nagurski-Feathers Best Combination in League
Credit: San Bernardino County Sun, Nov. 1, 1934 |
Rushing
The
Bears record-breaking 1934 season featured the one-two punch of fullback Bronco
Nagurski and rookie phenom, halfback Beattie Feathers. Nagurski finished 4th
in the NFL with 586 yards rushing on 123 carries and scored 7 TDs. The rookie
from Tennessee - Feathers - compiled the NFL’s first-ever 1,000-yard season by
carrying the ball 119 times for 1,004, setting an NFL record of 8.4 yards per
rush and scored 8 rushing touchdowns.
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Bears Halfback Beattie Feathers (#48) ball carrier as fullback Bronco Nagurski (#3) lead blocks.
Credit: PFJ
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Looking
at the numbers (as well as the undefeated regular season) you would think that
Feathers would be a run-away easy MVP. But Nagurski’s other strength in 1934
was that he was the lead blocker on most of Feathers’ carries, leading the way
for Feathers to average over 8 yards per rush. When Nagurski ran the ball
rarely did Feathers lead block for Bronco.
The
Eagles Swede Hanson had a very productive year finishing the season 2nd
in the NFL in rushing with 805 yards, but had a boatload of carries with 146
carries as the team from the city of Brotherly Love had just a 4-7 record.
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Eagles halfback Swede Hanson ball carrier against Lions
Credit: PFJ
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1934 NFL Rushing Stats
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1)
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Beattie Feathers,
Chi B
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119 att, 1,004 yards,
8.4 avg
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8 TDs
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2)
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Swede Hanson,
Phil
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146 att, 805 yards,
5.5 avg
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7 TDs
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3)
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Dutch Clark, Det
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123 att, 763 yards,
6.2 avg
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8 TDs
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4)
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Bronko Nagurski, Chi B
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123 att, 586 yards,
4.8 avg
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7 TDs
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5)
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Ernie Caddell, Det
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105 att, 528 yards,
5.0 avg
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4 TDs
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1934 NFL Rushing Attempts Per Game
Harry
Newman, New York 14.1 carries
per game
Swede
Hanson, Philadelphia 13.3
Clarke
Hinkle, Green Bay 12.0
Ace
Gutowsky, Detroit 11.2
Warren
Heller, Pittsburgh 11.0
Beattie
Feathers, C. Bears 10.8
Ken
Strong, New York 10.6
Dutch
Clark, Detroit 10.3
Bronko
Nagurski, C. Bears 9.5
Ed Danowski, New
York 9.4
Despite
not having some of the rushing or passing stats of the previous players the
Giants' Ken Strong helped carry his team to victories. In a three-week stretch
in October, Strong accounted for 34 of his team’s 48 points in three wins
against the Dodgers, Pirates and Eagles. Strong finished the season 4th
in scoring with 56 points. On November 25th, playing without an
injured Harry Newman, Strong’s 14-yard field goal was the difference in a crucial
3-0 win over the Boston Redskins- keeping the Giants in the Eastern Division
title hunt. Strong’s lack of rushing success does hurt him. He carried the
ball 138 times (5th in the NFL) for only 431 yards (11th
in NFL), putting him behind the other top candidates.
Besides
dominating the rushing categories the Bears’ Jack Manders led the league in
scoring with 76 points, mostly on field goals and extra points. No wonder the
Bears went undefeated. But the MVP race comes down to the Lions’ Dutch Clark
and the Bears’ Bronko Nagurski and Beattie Feathers.
Scoring
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1934 NFL Scoring
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1)
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Jack Manders, C Bears
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76 points (3 TDs, 10
FGs, 28 XPs)
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2)
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Dutch Clark, Detroit
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73 points (8 TDs, 4
FGs, 13 XPs)
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3)
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Glenn Presnell,
Detroit
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63 points (7 TDs, 4
FGs, 9 XPs)
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4)
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Ken Strong, New York
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56 points (6 TDs, 4
FGs, 8 XPs)
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5)
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Beattie Feathers, C Bears
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55 points (9 TDs, 1
XP)
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Looking
at the MVP race in 1934 the Lions and Bears were clearly the two best teams in
the league. But looking closer at the games one has to consider the caliber of
opponents they played. Glancing at the teams, any games against the Pittsburgh
Pirates and Cincinnati-St. Louis combo have to be tossed out because they were
the two weakest teams in the league. The Pirates went 2-10 and were outscored
51-206. While the Cincy-St. Louis squad is one of the worse teams in NFL HISTORY.
They went a combined 1-10 and were outscored 37-304!
Key Games
One
of the big accomplishments for the Detroit Lions in 1934, besides their
dominant running game, was their play on defense. Led by back Dutch Clark and
tackle George Christensen the Lions started the season winning their first ten
games, including an amazing seven straight shutouts to start the season. You
could make a case that Christensen was just as valuable on defense as Clark was
on offense. During that stretch the Lions outscored their opponents 118-0. In
the eighth game of the year, the shutout streak was snapped by the lowly Pirates,
but the Lions won the game 40-7. In that game, the Lions rushed for a NFL
single-game record 426 yards. But keep in mind that the Pirates were one of the
worse in the NFL.
The
Lions' 10-0 record on Nov. 18th did include quality wins over the Giants,
Packers, Redskins and two wins over a scrappy Cardinals team. The big games in
1934 came down at the end of the year as the Bears, who were undefeated too at
10-0, would face each other in back-to-back games.
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Lions Halfback-Quarterback Dutch Clark ball carrier against the Giants
Credit: PFJ
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In
the Lions’ second game (Sept, 30th) Dutch Clark scored the only
touchdown to help the Lions defeat a tough Cardinals squad 7-0. Three games
later he almost single-handily defeated the Dodgers by scoring three third-quarter
touchdowns in a 28-0 victory. Clark also dominated lesser opponents with big games
against Cincinnati (two touchdowns) and Pittsburgh (one touchdown and three
extra points). He was the guiding force behind the Lions reaching 10-0.
The
Bears defense was equally tough giving up 86 points, 2nd in the NFL
behind the Lions stingy 59 points. As for the two-headed monster of Feathers
and Nagurski they led an offensive onslaught that helped the Bears led the NFL
in scoring with 286 points- the next team was the Lions with 238, the third-best scoring team was the Packers with just 156.
In
the season opener (Sept. 23rd) against the tough Green Bay Packers,
Nagurski threw the first punch. After a sluggish first half that saw both teams
kick field goals Nagurski took over by throwing a touchdown pass to Bill Hewitt
and running for two fourth-quarter touchdowns (including one from 40 yards) to
clinch a 24-10 road win.
Feathers
then picked up the slack over the next five games, although against a few
weaker opponents. In two games against Cincinnati, the rookie scored three
touchdowns and had two 100-yard games (140 and 114). Against the Pirates he
sprinted for a 82-yard score while piling up another 100-yard game.
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Bears Halfback Beattie Feathers ball carrier
Credit: PFJ
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But in the rematch against the Packers on Oct. 28th Feathers took the
lead in the MVP race with one of the greatest games by a Bears running back. He
rushed for 155 yards and scored two touchdowns in an impressive 27-14 victory.
His 155-yard rushing was a team record for a single game until 1956 when Rick
Casares rushed for 190 against the Lions.
As
the season reached November the Bears had two games against the mighty New York
Giants within three weeks. On November 4th the 7-0 Bears played the
5-2 Giants at Wrigley Field. The two-headed monster dominated the Giants.
Nagurski runs up the middle was complimented by Feathers sweeps outside. Bronco
scored a short touchdown run in the 2nd quarter to give the Bears a
14-0, while a Feathers short TD pass to Carl Brumbaugh helped seal an easy 27-7
victory.
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Bears Fullback Bronco Nagurski being gang tackled by Mel Hein and others of the New York Giants,
1934 NFL Championship Game
Credit: PFJ
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Two
weeks later the Bears, still undefeated at 9-0, and the Giants (6-3) battled at
the Polo Grounds in front of a massive crowd of 55,000 fans. The Big Apple saw
one of the toughest and most hard-hitting games of the year. The Giants took control
of the game early behind the play of Ken Strong. His touchdown run and a safety
gave the hometown team a 9-0 lead that held up into the 4th quarter.
Then with 8 minutes remaining the undefeated Bears mounted a drive. First,
Nagurski rumbled 20 yards deep into Giants territory, setting up a 12-yard TD
run by Feathers on one of his patent sweeps. The extra point made it 9-7. Then
after a crucial Giants fumble the Bears completed the comeback as Jack Manders
booted a 24-yard field goal with 50 seconds remaining. The Bears stayed
undefeated with a hard-fought 10-9 victory.
Feathers Injury
and the Two Biggest Games of the Year
On
November 25th the MVP race and the season changed for the Chicago
Bears. In a game against the cross-town rivals Cardinals, the Bears lost rookie
sensation Beattie Feathers to a shoulder injury. During the game Feathers went
over the one-thousand mark, reaching 1,004 yards. But shortly after becoming
the first-ever player to rush for 1,000 yards he badly injured his shoulder.
Nagurski carried the ball more in the second half and his 4th
quarter TD clinched a 17-6 victory.
On
the same day Feathers was injured the Lions were upset 3-0 by the Green Bay
Packers, ruining their bid for an undefeated season.
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Headlines Beattie Feathers 1934 Shoulder Injury
Credit: Lincoln Evening-Journal, Nov. 27, 1934 |
The
injury to an MVP-caliber player who was having a great year would’ve hurt most
NFL teams. But most teams didn’t have Bronco Nagurski. After defeating the
Cardinals the Bears were 11-0 and heading into their two toughest games.
Back-to-back contests with the Detroit Lions, just four days apart from each
other.
When
G. A. Richards bought the Portsmouth Spartans and moved them to Detroit he
wanted a showcase game to put his team on the front pages of newspapers in the
Motor City. So the radio mogul convinced George Halas to bring his team to
Detroit on Thanksgiving. Richards then put the game on national radio with NBC.
With
Feathers on the sidelines the Bears (11-0) faced off against the Lions (10-1)
in front of 25,000 fans at Titan Stadium. The Lions needed to win both games in
four days to take the Western Division. In the first half it looked like they
would win the first game.
The
first quarter saw the two teams exchange touchdowns but then the Lions took
control of the game in the 2nd quarter. Lions halfback Glenn
Presnell booted a 42-yard field goal and Dutch Clark led a 65-yard scoring
drive that cumulated in a short TD run by Ace Gutowsky. Heading into halftime
the Lions held a comfortable 16-7 lead. The home fans could smell victory. But
you don’t get to be 11-0 by laying down.
The
Bears came out in the second half a different team. The defense played
fantastically and held the Lions scoreless. As for the offense, the Bears adjusted
without Feathers’ sweeps by running Nagurski up the middle. Yards were tough to
get through the Lions defensive front but the Bears did enough to set up two
field goals by Jack Manders. Heading into the final quarter the Bears only
trailed 16-13. After throwing only three passes all game the Lions decided to
take a gamble- and lost. Gutowsky threw a bad pass that was intercepted by
Joe Zeller who took the ball down inside the Lions’ five-yard line.
The
Bears tried Nagurski twice up the middle, but got nowhere. But the MVP candidate
on 3rd down faked a line plunge and stepped back throwing the go-ahead score to end Bill Hewitt. The Bears defense held the Lions the rest of
the way for a 19-16 win.
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Bears Fullback Bronco Nagurski ball carrier against the Detroit Lions
Credit: PFJ
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Three
days later at Wrigley Field (crowd of 34,412) Nagurski led the Bears to an
undefeated season. Playing again without Feathers, the bruising fullback scored
a short touchdown run in the first quarter to set the tone. The defense did the
rest as the Bears earned a hard-fought 10-7 win to complete a 13-0 regular
season.
Key
Stat: In the 11 games before the Lions played the Bears they gave up just 30
points- only 2.7 points per game- including seven straight shutouts to start
the season. In the two games against the Bears they surrender 29 points, nearly
15 points a game. Although the Bears averaged 23.3 points per game with
Feathers in the lineup Nagurski helped lead the Bears’ offense to over two
touchdowns a game against the league’s best defense.
A
week after beating the Lions twice in four days the Bears were stunned in the
1934 NFL Championship Game by the Giants at the Polo Grounds in the famous
“Sneakers Game”- failing to finish the season undefeated.
1934 NFL MVP
As
for the 1934 MVP race it comes down to a close vote.
The
Eagles Swede Hanson had a career year leading the NFL in carries (146) 2nd
in rushing (805) and 2nd in total touchdowns (8). But the Eagles won
only four games. Packers quarterback Arnie Herber led the NFL in attempts,
completions, yards and passing touchdowns while leading Green Bay to a 7-6
record and losses to the Bears (twice), Lions, Giants and Cardinals (twice).
Plus he guided the Packers to the upset victory against the Lions in late
November to ruin their perfect season. Herber finishes 5th in the
MVP voting.
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Arnie Herber. Credit: PFJ |
The
Giants duo of Harry Newman and Ken Strong played hard each week giving the
Giants a chance to win every game. It's tough to separate either one them in the
importance to their team. Newman finished in the top three in all major passing
categories except for touchdowns and he led his team to the Eastern Division
title before getting hurt in the next to last game. Strong finished 4th
in the NFL in scoring (56) and came up with the crucial touchdowns in the Giants’
biggest games of the year. The Giants duo finish tied for 4th in the
vote.
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Newman. Credit: PFJ |
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Ken Strong. NY Giants. Credit: PFJ |
Now, down to the final three.
Lions
super-star Dutch Clark continued his great play on the field since joining the
NFL in 1931. Playing in 12 games in 1934 Dutch led his team to 10 wins;
finished 3rd in rushing (763); 4th in passing; and 2nd
in scoring (73). He played great defensive in the Lions secondary and despite
finishing 8th in rushing attempts per game, was 2nd in
the league in yards from scrimmage with 835. The only thing holding Clark back
was his play down the stretch. He failed to help his team score in the Packers
3-0 upset win in late November, as well as not making an impact in the two
games against the Bears. Dutch places 3rd in the MVP vote for 1934.
Nobody
had a better year statistically than Beattie Feathers. He finished 1st
in the league in rushing (1,004); in yards per carry (8.4); in rushing
touchdowns (tied with Clark); in total TDs (9); in yards from scrimmage
(1,178); longest run (82 yards); and rushing yards per game (91.3). Feathers
also played big in wins over the Packers, Dodgers, and both Giants games. But
missing the final two games hurts him.
The
definition of MVP is pretty self-explanatory. So if missing the two most
important games of the year, and your team still wins, you might not get the
vote.
Bronco
Nagurski played in all 13 Bears games and was the heart and soul of an
undefeated team. Every game the Bears played he was a marked man. He finished 4th
in the NFL in rushing (586); tied for 3rd in rushing TDs (7); and
was 9th in the league in rushing attempts per game behind Newman,
Feathers, Strong and Dutch Clark with only 9.5 carries a game. He made the most
of his carries throughout 1934. Plus, he was the lead blocker for Feathers and
a Bears team that rushed for a NFL high 2,847 yards.
Nagurski
helped guide his team to back-to-back wins against the tough Lions in the
season’s final two games- just three days apart too- while having no Feathers
in the backfield. In the end his production on the field, as well as his defensive
play and blocking prowess gives him the edge over Feathers in a close, close
vote.
After finishing 3rd in the voting the previous year in PFJ's retroactive MVPs, Bronco
Nagurski is your 1934 NFL MVP.
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Nagurski. Credit: PFJ |
1934 NFL MVP
Top Five
Bronco
Nagurski, Chicago Bears, Fullback
Beattie
Feathers, Chicago Bears, Halfback
Dutch
Clark, Detroit Lions, Tailback-Quarterback
Harry
Newman, New York Giants, Quarterback; Ken Strong, New York Giants, Fullback
Arnie
Herber, Green Bay Packers, Quarterback