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Offense
Center: Aaron Brewer, Dolphins
Second team: Creed Humphrey, Chiefs
Second team: Creed Humphrey, Chiefs
Guards: Joe Thuney, Bears; Michael Onwenu, Patriots
Second team: Peter Skoronski, Titans; Chris Lindstrom, Falcons
Tackles: Laremy Tunsil, Commanders; Penei Sewell, Lions
Second team: Garett Bolles, Broncos; Troy Fautanu, Steelers
Tight end: Trey McBride, Cardinals
Second team: Kyle Pitts, Falcons
Wide Receivers: Puka Nacua, Rams; Jaxon Smith-Njigba, Seahawks; George Pickens, Cowboys
Second team: Ja'Marr Chase, Bengals; Nico Collins, Texans; Amon-Ra St. Brown, Lions
Quarterback: Matthew Stafford, Rams
Second team: Drake Maye, Patriots
Fullback: Kyle Juszczyk, 49ers
Second team: Reggie Gilliam, Bills
Running back: Bijan Robinson, Falcons
Second team: Christian McCaffrey, 49ers
Defense
Edge: Myles Garrett, Browns (4E); Micah Parsons, Packers-Cowboys (3O)Second team: Maxx Crosby, Raiders and Will Anderson Jr., Texans (4E)-tied; Nik Bonitto, Broncos (3O)
Defensive interior: Jeffery Simmons, Titans; Derrick Brown, Panthers; Byron Murphy, Seahawks (nose)
Second team: Leonard Williams, Seahawks; Cam Heyward, Steelers; Jordan Davis, Eagles (nose)
Linebackers: Ernest Jones IV, Seahawks; Tremaine Edmunds, Bears
Second team: Jack Campbell, Lions; Devin Lloyd, Jaguars
Cornerbacks: Derek Stingley Jr., Texans; Quinyon Mitchell, Eagles
Second team: Pat Surtain II, Broncos; Donte Jackson, Chargers
Slot: Cooper DeJean, Eagles
Second-team: Jalen Pitre, Texans
Safeties: Derwin James Jr., Chargers; Jessie Bates III, Falcons
Second team: Kyle Hamilton, Ravens; Kevin Byard, Bears
Second team: Cam Little, Jaguars
Special Teams
Kicker: Will Reichard, VikingsSecond team: Cam Little, Jaguars
Punter: Tress Way, Commanders
Second team: Jordan Stout, Ravens
Kick Returner: Charlie Jones, Bengals
Second team: Ray Davis, Bills
Punt Returner: Marcus Jones, Patriots
Second team: Chimere Dike, Titans
Special Teams: Devon Key, Broncos
Second team: Ben Skowronek, Steelers
Note: Due to personal family issues, I am unable to post a full analysis of my picks at this time, but plan to update as soon as I am able.
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ReplyDeleteThanks John, hope everything works out.
Stafford was also first choice with PFF.
Robinson and Gibbs are the league's most spectacular runners but I felt Cook and Taylor were more valuable to their team's success. Taylor tapered off, but losing his QB didnt help. McCaffery was a good choice though. He carried the team during Purdy's absence.
McBride makes sense, increasing his TD numbers without Murray but 2nd team is hard to call. Pitts surged at the end but hardly did anything till Cousins took over. PFF chose Kittle but he missed too many games in my view. I think Henry in NE gets the nod, being on one of the NFL's best offenses.
Had Adams not missed games, could have easily made the wideout list.
On defense, I can understand Anderson but Hunter and Hutchinson were excellent as well. Just alot of good pass rushers, including Turner, who I would choose over Heyward.
PFF did not choose Dike, but I did. A bright spot on a terrible team year.
Running back was tough, I lean to running/receivers ... but if someone wanted Cook or Taylor, etc ... it is easy to defend. Henry vs Cook on2nd team All-AFC very tough, and not sure I was right.
DeleteAd yes ... Kitte, Lane Johnson, Wirfs all missed too much time ...
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As far asHeyward, I wish I could have explained -- Brown and Heyward were 4i/5 techs ... more often over a tackle in base defense, Williams and Simmins were more or less the3-techs, so Kobie lost out to them as the "rush" tackle.
I pick one "DE" and one "DT" and one "NT" but that does not mean that is the right way, these days it is harder to separate... but it's the way I like to do it.
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DeleteNo sweat, John ...
I didnt see alot of these players enough and respect your opinion. I wasnt sure for the alignment of the Seahawks, I thought Murphy was more a tackle than nose but Jarran Reed must have been situational or hurt more? What were your thoughts on Poona Ford at nose for the Rams, did he stand out to you?
Yeah, I get it, Murphy and Davis played the most in the A-gap. Not many play over the center nose-up any more but in general, in base, Murphy and Davis play over a guard ... these days they call it a G-tech, and the rusher the 3-tech .. so I generally divided them that way, maybe it is right or maybe it is right.
DeleteI hope things are good with your family. Losing a parent is hard. Been there.
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ReplyDeleteInteresting looking at the AP All-Pro selections. It looks like they are recognizing two, 1st team running backs by creating an All Purpose selection with the choice going to McCafferty. Robinson vaulted to first-team due to his all purpose yards as well, despite others having more yards and TDs.
A crazy universe having Pitts at second team All-Pro, when he got three of his five total TDs in one game. He had only one going into that wk 15 game, but maybe the voters felt he was the catalyst for the Falcons four game, closing win streak?
Chase made 1st team All-Pro again, but had a much better season last year. St Brown, Adams or even Pickens, were better this year.
Surprised Surtain was second-team All-Pro despite Denver having so many sacks? You called it, John. Glad to see Burns and Hunter get 2nd team recognition from AP. Parsons got 1st team recognition as well.
The all-purpose replaces, I suppose, the old flex player they had for a time ... Pitts was a hard thing, TE ... Kittle, and Bowers IMO, missed too much time, like Wirfs, Lane Johnson at tackle. It was one of those years and positions where pickings were thing. One year PSI had no blue defensie tackles even though there were HOFers playing that year ... So I agree with you, I just think there were few alternatives.
DeleteBurns was hard, too. Brandon Thorn dos not like AP's pick of him. Saying his sacks were low quality -- and yes, I trust his analysis but also (I went with Burns 2nd team all-NFC) Burns did knock down some passes and forcned a few fumbles and did get 16-1/2 sacks, so there is nuance, but Burns a good year on terrible defense.
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ReplyDeleteGetting back to the AP All- Pro selections, was confused on the Edge selections? So instead of two traditional OLB spots, and Edge spot took one of their places?
You had Anderson Jr taking one spot(Edge)and Parsons(OLB)? Or was Parsons considered a second Edge spot?
Its the opposite on 2nd team selections with Burns at Edge, and two DEs in Hunter and Hutchinson, unless one of those was considered OLB?
Also, Robinson is listed on both teams at RB but considered All-Purpose at 2nd team. Why not put Gibbs at that spot? Achane could have also been considered, and three of the top four TD scorers, including Henry as well, did not get recognition for four slots ...
Olave really helped turn around the Saints season but I believe Adams or Higgins in Cincy, were just as deserving ...
Always oddities in voting for edge and OLBer, they put OLBers as edge but they don't always mandate it so you get crossover. Just like you are seeing with the All-purpose ... same thing would happen with the flex ... and also the nickelback ... I didn't pick all purpose but if I did sure Gibbs, for years I picked a third down back and a nickel rusher but didn't think year, I may update when I do the narrative .. like I'd pick Gainwell as the receiving back and not sure on nickel rusher but there is so much crossover, that it's not like it used to be -- a Sproles who comes in on 3rd down or a Robert Mathis, in years he didn't start, coming on on third downs. You know, specialists. Now the specialists are really guys who split time with the "starter" in most cases.
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DeleteThanks ... always look forward to everyone's selections considering they can help with eventual HOF election, along with a championship.