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Two weeks ago we looked at Tom Brady's career(LINK) in relation to passing productivity from 2001-2006 and then 2007-2015. We found that the numbers from 2007 to present were significantly better and published this chart:
It showed Brady to have a passer rating of 88.4 earlier in his career and more recently a rating of 101.6, and a similar trend in the playoffs
With the 17th iteration of Brady-Manning coming up in the AFC Championship Game this weekend we looked at Brady's numbers versus Manning's teams to see if there was a similar trend.
Chart: Pro Football Journal
Is there? You decide. There seems to be a 'Part A" and "Part B" here as well. Something happened in 2007.
McDaniel? Moss, then Gronkowski? Gisele Bündchen? The two begin dating in December 2006. Frankly, we are not sure of the reasons, only that there is a line of demarcation beginning in the 2007 season.
Credit: Wikipedia
Overall in the 16 games of the head-to-head matchup the Patriots have averaged 30 points per game and Manning's teams 25 ppg. Brady's teams are 11-5.
Manning has completed 410/ 657 passes (62.4%) for 4,809 yards, 33 TDs and 22 INTs for a passer rating of 87.4 and Brady has completed 367/553 passes (66.4%) for 4,013 yards, 31 TDs and 13 INTs for a 96.5 rating.
The Pittsburgh Steeler pass offense of 1952 installed by Gus Dorais and Head Coach Joe Bach remained during Ted Marchibroda's rookie campaign of 1953. After serving our country in 1954, he returned to continue his apprenticeship behind Jim Finks in 1955. Steeler passing records were broken in the game against the Lions that season, and Marchibroda contributed to the Black & Gold passing game that afternoon.
Marchibroda was the full-time starter in 1956 but with the hiring of Buddy Parker for the 1957 campaign, he was traded to the Cardinals for his final season as a player. His last touchdown pass was thrown to future Hall of Fame running back Ollie Matson (this is a precursor of things to come). Ted's first year as a coach came in our Nation's capital in 1961 when former teammate Bill McPeak hired him to teach/tutor rookie quarterback Norm Snead. Winning their final game that year saved the 'Skins from going winless. A 1-12-1 record is not the way to start a coaching career, but with the acquisition of Bobby Mitchell and Snead's improvement the 'Skins were very competitive the first half of the 1962 campaign.
When Sonny Jurgensen was brought in (he was acquired for Snead) the Washington passing attack reached new heights. One of the most impressive victories in 1964 was the victory over the defending league champion Bears and defensive co-ordinator George Allen.
Finally getting his opportunity to become a head coach; Allen needed an offensive co-ordinator he could have complete trust/faith in, and who could teach a talent like Roman Gabriel to elevate his game. Los Angeles, in the three seasons before the arrival of Allen & Marchibroda, had lost 28 of 42 games, but in their first three years together they lost only 11 of 42.
Running back Tom Moore joined the Rams in 1966 and established a new record for receptions for a running back in a season with 60. Marchibroda's innovative use of Moore allowed Moore's gaudy number of receptions and was a hallmark of Marchibroda's innovations that were followed by the Bill Walsh and others in the use of running backs in the passing game.
Another example of Marchibroda's approach was during his time with the Rams, Gabriel had a 76.0 rating in when pro football's overalpasser rating was 63.8 and only 3.3 % of Gabe's passes were picked off when football-wide the average over that 5-year span was 5.4%.
Entering the 1969 season Roman Gabriel was now considered an elite quarterback, and was voted the league MVP. From 1947 (12 game schedule) through 1968 (14 game schedule) only nine teams had a win streak of at least 9 games. The '48 Cardinals (10), '51 Browns (11), '53 Browns (11), '60 Eagles (9), '61 Oilers (9), '62 Giants (9), '62 Packers (10), '64 Bills (9), and '67 Raiders (10) had hammered their way to a championship game, could the 1969 Rams join them?
Marchibroda's belief in a balanced, mistake-free offense, combined elements seen today. The use of wing alignments with a single back, and split backs gave the quarterback the option of throwing short to the back out of the backfield, intermediate and deep to wide receivers and tight ends got the Rams off and winging as they won their first 11 games to join the above mentioned group. Minnesota also joined the group as they won 12 straight that season, and beat Los Angeles in a legendary playoff battle at the Met. The Rams under the guidance of Allen & Marchibroda had achieved success in the regular season, but had tasted playoff defeat on the road in the frigid Midwest in 1967 and 1969.
Allen brought Ted with him to Washington in 1971 and the "Over the Hill Gang" was the talk of the league as the 'Skins fought their way into the playoffs. Ted Marchibroda again got a chance to work with future Hall of Famer Sonny Jurgensen, yet it was his work with retread Billy Kilmer that received rave notices around the league. Again a balanced mistake free offense built around a running back (league MVP Larry Brown), and a passing attack that utilized everyone was the Marchibroda way. Though Washington won two home playoff games in 1972 the season ended in defeat in the Super Bowl to the undefeated Dolphins. Two more successful playoff seasons ensued, but at the close of 1974 it was finally time for Ted to become a head coach.
The impressive history of the Baltimore Colts had reached the bottom by the close of 1974, could this rookie head coach turn them around? Starting 1-4 no one other than Ted thought the Colts would do anything during the 1975 season. Baltimore won 9 straight games to win the AFC East. Two of those division victories came over the Don Shula led Dolphins; as Marchibroda became the first coach to beat Shula twice in one season since Don had become head coach in Miami. Ted Marchibroda became the first man as both an assistant and head coach to have a win streak of at least 9 games in the regular season.
The defending Super Bowl Champion Steelers won 11 straight games during 1975 thus setting up a playoff confrontation of Marchibroda returning to Pittsburgh to try and de-throne the Steelers. The Colts lost the hard fought contest, and two more play-off failures during 1976 & 1977. The keys to the Colts success on offense was the continued improvement of league MVP Bert Jones at quarterback, and Lydell Mitchell at running back. Mitchell was very productive as a runner, yet his ability as an effective receiver out of the backfield was again a trademark of a Marchibroda offense.
The firing of Marchibroda returned him to offensive mastermind as an assistant in Chicago, Detroit, and Philadelphia. Finding a place where you "fit" as a coach is always troublesome, but Ted finally found a place where he could help resurrect an offense........Buffalo.
Marv Levy (also a former George Allen assistant) and Ted set in motion a prolific offense. Marchibroda mentored another Pennsylvania native in Jim Kelly; who was improving with each snap, and took the talents of Thurman Thomas to a new level. The K-gun offense was innovative......but what else would you expect from Marchibroda. Buffalo would advance to the Super Bowl in Ted's final two years there. Marchibroda again became the head coach of the Colts; this time in Indianapolis. Strong willed, tough, and with a powerful arm Jim Harbaugh had limited success in Chicago, but under the tutelage of Ted, Harbaugh led the Colts to within one Hail Mary pass of returning to the Super Bowl in 1995.
Marchibroda returned to Baltimore to become the first head coach of the Ravens. The won/loss record does not show the foundation that Ted laid in his final go 'round as a Head Coach. In closing his saga; many will state emphatically what a kind man he was. I am one of those many. My limited correspondence with him was always positive, and our talk of offensive football at the Pro Football Hall of Fame one summer was truly a highlight for me. RIP Ted, you achieved so much during your time in the league.
From Back to the Future, Part 2. Doc: "Unbelievable that Old (Stan) could've chosen that particular date. It could mean that that point in time inherently contains some sort of cosmic significance, almost as if it were the temporal junction point of the entire space-time continuum. On the other hand, it could just be an amazing coincidence."
LOOKING AHEAD By John Turney The Christian Apostle Matthew was probably not talking about the Pro Football Hall of Fame or the players in NFL history with the most sacks as an outside linebacker, but in this case, the quote may be fitting if things go in Kevin Greene's favor the Saturday before the upcoming Super Bowl.
Kevin Greene. Digital Art Credit: John Turney
In 1999 the first "rushbacker" was inducted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame, the "G.O.A.T" i.e. greatest of all time Lawrence Taylor. He was perhaps not the first outside linebacker who was a dominant rusher, but he is the one who is credited with changing the game in terms of blocking schemes and how teams prepared for the likes of Taylor.
Taylor himself credits Bill Parcells as the creator of the position, in 1984. During the first few years of Taylor's career, he was an all-around LBer, dropping into coverage about 45% of the time and in 1983, due to injuries, played some inside linebacker. In 1984, Parcells thought he was just wasting Taylor on early downs, where teams would throw, so he essentially turned Taylor into a defensive end. Leonard Marshall echoed that in his book, and said 'LT was basically a defensive end, and I was essentially a defensive tackle in our scheme". Whether linebacker, defensive end, or rushbacker, there have been many players essentially doing the same thing on the field: getting after the quarterback the vast majority of the time and mixing in coverage responsibilities.
Beginning in 2008 there were several of these rushbackers or "edge rushers" plus a couple of outstanding defensive ends that were popping up on Hall of Fame Final 15 lists and they began to be inducted, seemingly every year, as they should have been, all were deserving.
In 2008 Andre Tippett, as well as defensive end/designated pass rusher Fred Dean, were both elected, in 2009 Derrick Thomas (and lock Bruce Smith) were voted in, Rickey Jackson was next in 2010,. In 2011 defensive end Richard Dent was inducted and the following year it was Chris Doleman's turn. Then it was inside rusher Warren Sapp's turn and in 2014, end Michael Strahan was the "edge rusher" of the year. Last year, it was Charles Haley's opportunity and he was voted into the Hall.
Eligible all those years was Kevin Greene, who had more sacks than any of those players. Certainly, sacks are not the only measure, not even Greene would argue that he knows that playing his position, no matter the name, is about stopping the run and playing coverage (man or zone) were required. But it is certainly of note that some of those rushbackers who played as long as Greene and were honored as All-Pro and Pro Bowlers the same or even fewer times and got to the quarterback fewer times than Greene were inducted ahead of him. Certainly, part of it is that Greene isn't really a Ram or a Steeler or a Panther or a 49er, he's part of all of them and they are all part of him.
However, 2016 will possibly change that, though it is never a sure thing. Voters have published thoughts about Greene over the years and few, if any, spoke of any kind of flaw in Greene's career, just that they had to prioritize the edge rushers and the other players up against Greene who were also qualified and in each instance, they got the call before Greene. So, if those words hold up it could be Greene's year to don the Gold Jacket.
Now that Greene is again on the Final 15 list, it may be interesting to look a little closer at Greene's career to see some of the nuggets that make him special, in a group of special players, aside from his sack total. He had plenty of challenges, scheme changes, new positions to learn and yes, even contract disputes which led to changing teams before it had become common and accepted practice for a player.
Perhaps the best way to look at his career is chronological, as that will afford a discussion of the various schemes Greene played in and the hurdles cleared.
Synopsis
Greene was drafted as a defensive end by the Los Angeles Rams in 1985 and that season he spent most of his time as a core special-teamer, playing on all the special teams, However, after midseason Greene was showing enough to defensive coordinator Fritz Shurmur that he would be inserted as a left defensive end in the Rams sub-packages (nickel and dime). Sometimes he was an end in a 3-man nickel or a 40 nickel, with Doug Reed reducing as a defensive tackle. He had a few hurries but did not record a sack until the opening round of the playoffs versus Dallas.
In 1986 and 1987 Greene mostly filled that same role as the nickel left end, and both seasons he was second to Gary Jeter in sacks for the Rams, though there were times he played the right end in the nickel and also spelled starting linebackers Mel Owens and Mike Wilcher.
The following clip illustrates his main role for the Rams in those two years. The Rams are in a 4-1-6 with Greene at left end. He and Doug Reed sack the quarterback. One note, the official play-by-play does not credit Greene with 1/2 of the sack. It is shared by Reed (#93) who does deserve 1/2 of the sack and Shawn Miller (#98, who fell on the pile late) with 1/2 a sack. The scoring was never challenged by the Rams, so Greene never got credit for this 1/2 sack.
1988 brought a change, John Robinson wanted to have a more aggressive approach and there were some injuries to down linemen, so Fritz Shurmur employed the "Eagle" defense, which, essentially, was a clone of the Bears 46 defense, butShurmur used five-linebackers and 2 down linemen in his package rather than the four defensive linemen and three linebackers the Bears used. The Rams deployed that scheme, along with their base 3-4 and sometimes even a "Big Nickle" for the next three seasons, through 1990.
One pro scouting firm had Greene rated as the best of the rushbackers in 1988 and third best in 1989, And the next clip gives a good example of Greene and his role in the Eagle and Hawk defenses. The difference is where nose-backer (yes nose-backer) Fred Strickland lines up. If he is over the center it's Eagle. If he lines up as a linebacker or stems from nose to linebacker it's the Hawk. In either case, the goal is to have Greene matched up on a tight end or back, rather than a tackle, and in this game, it worked well.
In the role of LOLB in the Eagle (and its variant the Hawk as well as their base) Greene was able to rush wide and used his abilities to harass quarterbacks. He led the Rams with 16-1/2 sacks in 1988 and 1989 and had 13 sacks in 1990 for a total of 46 over that three-year period—more than anyone in the NFL.
In 1991 John Robinson wanted to make another change in his defense and this time he dismissed defensive coordinator Fritz Shurmur and hired young up-and-comer Jeff Fisher to run the defense, promising more man-to-man coverage while still utilizing an aggressive rush. Fisher installed a 4-3 but it relied heavily on the 46 defense, which he played in Chicago as a player and used in Philadelphia under Buddy Ryan. However, in 1991 it just didn't work.
First, the Rams lacked linemen to play that scheme, picking up Plan B free agents to fill positions that with the Bears and Eagles were played by the likes of Dan Hampton, Richard Dent, Reggie White, Jerome Brown, etc. Greene was the only legitimate star Fisher had to work with and it wasn't enough Then, injuries decimated the defensive linemen he had, forcing him to go to the free agent wires to fill out the roster.
Greene bounced from defensive end to linebacker back to defensive end. He still led the Rams in sacks with a paltry 3, but he did have a lot of hurries. But, it was a miserable experience. I
n fairness, Greene didn't have to change positions as much as the moniker of "defensive end" suggests. Greene spent most of his snaps in a two-point stance in the Bear front and often did the same in nickel.
At "DE" in the Bear defense
As a "DE" in nickel
This Greene's adjustment wasn't a huge one, but with the kind of players and the number of injuries the Rams had in 1991 it ended after one year as both Robinson and Fisher left the Rams after the season.
That brought in 1992, with Chuck Knox and defensive coordinator George Dyer. The Rams kept the 4-3 scheme but made Greene a base 4-3 linebacker who moved to LDE, usually, in nickel/dime packages. In that role, he had to cover more than he ever had previously in his career. He even played some stacked linebacker or as it is no called an "off-the-ball" linebacker. He led the Rams in tackles and sacks and was named All-Pro by Paul Zimmerman, who cited Greene's coverage ability, "The (other) OLB spot was between Seth Joyner . . . and the Rams' Kevin Greene. I picked Greene. He had more coverage responsibility than ever before, and he did just fine."
Below are a few screenshots of where Greene lined up in the base defense. These are posts that you likely would not have found a Haley or Tippett or Jackson, et al.
Nickel, on goal-line, in C-G gap
In a 4-3 under, off LOS
In a 4-2 nickel showing A-Gap pressure
Looks to be 40 nickel as MIKE
In base 4-3 over front as a linebacker over the center
Greene was free to sign as a free agent in 1993 and he chose a team that suited his skills best, the Pittsburgh Steelers and their 3-4 defense. He excelled there, making All-Pro and Pro Bowl, played in a Super Bowl, led the NFL in sacks.
The next clip is an example of his play with the Steelers and a role with Capers. He is doubled and gets through to hit the QB and then #76 finished the OB off. Again, this is an example of Greene not getting any credit for the play as #76, Kevin Henry originally got credit for the full sack.
Fortunately, Elias Sports Bureau would review them if the coaching staff requested it and this sack was eventually credited to Greene, the "Crawling sack"
Steeler defensive coach Dick LeBeau said, "Kevin Greene is a great player against the run and of the best pass rushers in NFL history. He is almost unblockable."
Greene was a free agent again in 1996, and signed with expansion Panther head coach Dom Capers, his defensive coordinator in Pittsburgh and won another sack title, NEA Defensive Player of the Year and just missed going to the Super Bowl.
In 1997 Greene was lured to the 49ers by a big contract, but it lasted only one year he was the "elephant" in the 49ers defense, (a catchy name for a designated pass rusher role) and he had 10.5 sacks and where he officially broke L.T.'s record for sacks by a linebacker. [Note: In my view Greene broke L.T's record the following year because L.T. had 9-1/2 sacks as a rookie, bringing his total to 142, but that is another can of worms]
1998 brought Greene back to the Panthers where, at age 36, he had 15 sacks and garnered more post-season honors as a starter in the Panthers familiar 3-4 defense.
In 1999 the Panthers switched defensive schemes to a 4-3, one very much like he played in 1992 for the Rams, where he was a base LLB and was a pass rusher on third downs. He ended the season with 12 sacks and 7.5 stuffs, the seventh time in his career he had 18.5 or more sacks and stuffs combined and the tenth time he amassed 10 or more sacks in a season.
In a recent interview given to the Talk of Fame Sports Network Greene said, “I was an outside linebacker in a 3-4, so I actually had coverage responsibilities. So my rush was more limited (than a defensive end). But, still, I think my numbers match up pretty good, even with those that rushed the passer every passing down." He also added that he feels like his production was surpassed by none and "My nutritional habits, my sleep habits, my workout habits, my practice habits, my study habits were all thoroughly thought out and planned to be the best that I could be".
Here is a list of Greene's honors, year-by-year
ALL-PRO
Chart Credit: PFR (Updated 6/20/24 to add new data)
In addition to his sacks, Greene forced and recovered lots of fumbles, had fifty passes defensed and had 63 run stuffs and scored on defense six times (three touchdowns and three safeties).
So, the Sunday before Super Bowl 50, Greene will know his fate and we will all learn if the linebacker first in sacks with 160 (or is it 160.5?) will be the last of his contemporaries to be voted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame.
