Saturday, May 11, 2019

The NFL's Top Post-WWII Guards

OPINION
By John Turney
Once again we will try and list the best guards of all time, or at least since World War II with Chris Willis of NFL Films taking on the pre-WWII guards.

As with our other posts we listen to scouts, and also the quotes from players and coaches from the literature of the time the player was active, we look at (and list) the All-Pro selections along with the Second-team picks (which can be important) and Pro Bowls as well as the various Lineman of the Year Awards that were given by several organizations since the 1960s or so.

Here goes—

1. Jim Parker
Played both guard and tackle and was elite at both. He was a unique physical specimen for any era, especially his. He was over 300 pounds and could run well, with power and smarts. Bob Lilly called him the best he ever faced. So did Sam Huff. And others did, too. Deacon Jones named Parker the second best player he'd ever seen (behind only Jim Brown).

Paul Zimmerman of Sports Illustrated wrote, "So big, so graceful. God was certainly generous when He created him". Seventeen-year vet Ed White said, "He's the best I ever saw. I've seen film of him—he was devastating. I've never seen anyone as devastating as Jim Parker".

George Allen said this, "Jim Parker rises above even the best. He was massive and powerful yet he had quick feet and quick hands. I think he was the best pass blocker ever yet he was also one of the best run blockers. On the line he drove his man back, opening up huge holes yet he was also capable of pulling out and throwing a block past the line of scrimmage. Parker was not only the best physically but also the most skillful of all time".

In all, Parker was an eight-time First-team All-Pro, a 1950s All-Decade Team member and a first-ballot Hall of Famer and in 1964 was voted the NFL's top blocker and earned two NFL Championship rings.

2. Larry Allen
A modern-day Jim Parker. Power, strength, balance and he too, could run. Joel Buchsbaum of Gannett News Service wrote, "Allen is the most awesome blocker in the game . . . (he's) so quick, so explosive, and so powerful that he dominates tackles like few have in the history of the game".  "He was the strongest man in football and was light on his feet", Buchsbaum added, "Most scouts think he has become better than John Hannah was in his prime".

Coming out of Sonoma State the Los Angeles Times called him the "Sonoma Sleeper". He was 6-3 325 pounds and ran a 4.85 forty and leaped 30 inches high, though his combine time was 5.21 and we wonder what Allen weighed when he ran the 4.85. Just a guess, it was likely much less than 325.

He did legendary things, benched pressed over 700 pounds and did 48 reps at 225 pounds in the bench press and also ran down Saints linebacker Darion Conner to prevent a pick-six touchdown drawing raves from Dan Dierdorf.

Allen went on to be First-team All-Pro seven times and voted to eleven Pro Bowls. He was named the NFL’s Offensive Lineman of the Year by the NFL Alumni in 1997 and by the NFL Players Association as the NFC Offensive Lineman of the Year in 1996, 1997, 1998 and 1999. He was Second-team (how is that possible?) on the NFL All-Decade Teams of the 1990s and 2000s.

In his fourteen seasons, he was only called for holding thirteen times, less than one per season on average.

John Randle said playing against Allen was like "going against a car". Teammate Nate Newton said that Allen was, simply, "A bad man". Yes. He was.

3. John Hannah
Paul Zimmerman's number one guard ever, really we could have tied him and Allen. The only weakness is with his short set in pass protection sometimes he'd whiff, but it was well worth the few negatives to get an amazing upside of Hannah. Gene Upshaw said, "He tried to kill everyone on every play. That would get him into trouble once in a while is pass blocking".

He was around 265 pounds and ran a 4.85 forty but the raw numbers didn't really explain his explosion into defenders. And even though he was 10-15 pounds heavier than the really great guards of his era (man of whom are this list) he could pull and lead sweeps as well, if not better than any of them.

Joel Buchsbaum said, "Devastating to the point of being unreal." "The thing I always liked about Hannah," said John Madden, "is that he' has that defensive player's attitude, that same aggression".

Hannah was a first-ballot Hall of Famer and a Second-team 1970s All-Decade Team member and a First-team 1980s All-Decade Team member. He was an 11-time All-Pro (nine consensus) and in six different seasons (1977-81 and 1984), he was an Offensive Lineman of the Year Award winner by various organizations.

4. Bruce Matthews
He played some center and a bit of tackle, but guard, we think, was his best position. Smart, athletic, flexible with good height.

He was equally adept at run blocking and pass protection. More conservative in his approach than Hannah, more cautious but extremely efficient. "Matthews is a great pass blocker and a superb both in the line and on the move, he has everything" is what Buchsbaum wrote about him.

He was the NFL Alumni NFL Lineman of the Year in 1993 and in 2000 and the NFPA AFC Offensive Lineman of the Year. He was a nine-time All-Pro and a one-time Second-team All-Pro and was voted to 14 Pro Bowls and was a First-team All-1990s selection.

He was a First-team HOF All-1990s pick and a PFJ 1985-1995 All-Decade team selection as well. And of course, a first-ballot Hall of Famer.

He played an amazing 19 seasons, playing in 296 games (missing just four) and started 293 of them.

5. Randall McDaniel
He had a unique stance, used his hands well in pass protection (amazing stong grip) and could run and pull like the guards of the fifties-sixties and seventies. Was not going to root anyone out at the line of scrimmage, but could do everything else well.

"He's a quick and fast as any offensive lineman in the NFL—he has great hop roll and explosion", wrote Buchsbaum. He did have a bit of an issue of holding, getting flagged 19 times in his last seven seasons, but it was part of his style. As some would say, "Once he got his hands on you, it was over". So it was usually worth the risk.

He was a two-time Offensive Lineman of the Year, a nine-time All-Pro (eight consensus) and a 12-time Pro Bowler and also was a First-team All-1990s selection.

6. Mike Munchak
Dogged a bit by injuries but was kind of a 'poor man's John Hannah' and even as his peak was called "A younger, more athletic John Hannah" and "Mean, massive, mobile who can uncoil while on the run", by Buchsbaum. "From a strength standpoint Mike does everything right", said his strength coach, "he understands his body and he knows how to deliver a blow with thrust and power."

Munchak was a Second-team All-Decade selection for the 1980s and a First-team PFJ 1985-1995 All-Decade team selection as well, a nine-time Pro Bowler a four-time First-team All-Pro and a six-time Second-team All-Pro.

7. Joe DeLamielleure
Like Bruce Matthews, a solid player who didn't gamble as much as Hannah, he was more cautious but could short set with the best ever plus he could drive block and could trap and pull. He was a complete guard.

According to Buchsbaum, "Strong run blocker, gets downfield to lead interference, has textbook perfect technique and is a great pass blocker".

Joe D. was First-team All-Decade for the 1970s, went to six Pro Bowls, was a six-time First-team All-Propick and twice more was a Second-team All-Pro selection and twice he was voted as the  Offensive Lineman of the Year by a pair of organizations.

He was a good all-around athlete and competed in the NFLPA strongman contest, the racquetball contest, and the arm wrestling competition.

8. Larry Little
A classic pulling guard who could run like the wind. There are several of these on the list. He could do inline blocking as well, but getting out and leading the sweep was his forte. Howard Mudd said, "he could run in space, knock guys off the ball, and finish guys".

Little played 14 seasons and was named First-team All-Pro six times and Second-team All-Pro once. He was All-AFC five times (and Second-team twice) and went to five Pro Bowls. He was named the NFLPA AFC Lineman of the Year three times (1970-1972) and was a First-team selection on 1970s All-Decade Team.

Was a major part of the Dolphins back-to-back Super Bowl champions in 1972 and 1973. 

9. Steve Hutchinson
Hutch was a cross between a Hannah and DeLamielleure. He was excellent on short and long traps, blocked for some amazing successful runners. He had the size of a tackle and drive block ability but also good quickness. Is downgraded here just a hair based on a few years being less than perfect in pass protection but as we mentioned Hannah would struggle at times, too.

One report read this way, "Fun to watch. Rugged, smart and a consistent performer. He had excellent quickness and pop. He can stun defenders with power and excels at pulling and trapping".

Linebacker Dan Morgan said, "Hutch was a strong athletic, technically sound badass. You could not do anything against him because he wouldn't lunge at you, do the things unathletic guards do. He played with such control and was such a technically sound player you really didn't have a chance".

"I played against Larry Allen and he's the biggest dude and Steve is right there with him. Those two right there are the best guards I've played against", said Brian Urlacher.

ESPN writer and HOF voter Mike Sando collected several impressive "testimonials" about Hutchinson. Among them, "Albert Haynesworth remembered Hutch’s sheer strength. 'Alan Faneca was strong,' he said, 'but Hutch was almost crazy strong, unbelievable.'”  And former defensive tackle La’Roi Glover told Sando, “The only guy who had stronger grippers was Randall McDaniel. If Randall McDaniel got his hands on you, just stop and go back to the huddle. Hutch had that ability as well.” And you can throw in Brett Favre's comments "Toughest and smartest lineman hands down. Technique was flawless and just downright good.” Mike Holmgren told Sando, Steve Hutchinson was the best guard I ever saw.”

In all, Hutchinson earned seven straight Pro Bowl berths (2004-2010) and was a First-team All-Pro selection six times (2003, 2005-2009) and Second-team All-Pro once (2004). He was named All-NFC six times (2003-07, 2009) and is a member of the NFL’s All-Decade Team of the 2000s and a two-time NFL Alumni Offensive Linemen of the Year winner.

In 2010 researcher/writer Matt Shervington looked at Hutch's numbers as it pertained to "left guard traps" and wrote, "Over a five year period backs behind Hutchinson have run left guard trap 527 times. These 527 rushing attempts have garnered 2,379 yards rushing and 37 rushing touchdowns.

He was only called for holding nine times in his career and went five consecutive seasons without an accepted holding call against him (and only three false starts in the same five-year span) making him one of the cleanest guards on this least.

10. Zack Martin
Already climbing the charts as a perennial All-Pro. If he keeps this pace up he could end up being a top-five player on this list. He's a dominant, dominant physical player who can push people back and like Hannah and Hutchinson has a nasty streak. He also plays pretty flag-free. He had five holding calls in his first three years, but none in the last two.

"He's really good in pass pro, incredibly strong, you rarely see him pushed back. He does really well when he's pulling", said Ryan Kerrigan. "It doesn't look flashy but he dominates guys", Mike Daniels added, "he is phenomenal. He's the best pass blocking guard in the NFL, hands down."

“A technique master, [Zack] Martin has been the NFL’s premier guard since the day he entered the league out of Notre Dame four years ago,” wrote NFL.com's Chris Wesseling. Those we talk to concur. They concur to the point that he's doing what John Hannah and Larry Allen were doing at similar points in their careers.

Some may question him being this high this early in his career. And yes, we get it, they may be right. However, where would Lawrence Taylor have ranked after five seasons among OLBer? We already have named Justin Tucker and Johnny Hekker as the tops at their positions. We placed Aaron Donald in the top ten among defensive tackles.

After five years JJ Watt would rank in the top ten of defensive ends and second among 3-4 defensive ends. So, what we are saying, Martin so far has grades that are elite and similar to those names we've mentioned.

Of course, he may not keep this momentum up. JJ Watt scared us a bit with two seasons if injuries before he had a great year in 2018. Earl Campbell, after his third season, was listed on lots of all-time lists that we saw in the magazines and books of the day and his career didn't sustain. So, sure, that could happen.

Or, Martin could keep it up and continue to put up Stephenson, Munoz, Hannah, or Allen scores and challenge for the top of the list.

So, there you have it, Martin is killing it so far.

11. Jerry Kramer
Another classic pulling guard, a major cog in the Lombardi Sweep. He was a tough guy who played hurt and still performed well. Johnny Sample said, "I used to hate seeing # 64 pulling out of that line because I knew he was coming after me. He used to like to run over cornerbacks and I found out the hard way he really liked to put it to a guy."

He earned All-Pro honors acclaim five times (and Second-team All-Pro once) and was also named to the NFL’s All-Decade Team of the 1960s, the NFL’s 50th Anniversary Team and the Super Bowl Silver Anniversary Team.

His wait to enter the Hall of Fame was terrible and political, in our view. But finally, that wrong was righted.

12. Gene Upshaw
Like Little and Kramer, a classic puller. "When I think about Gene Upshaw I think about No. 63 pulling," Hall of Fame cornerback Willie Brown said, "A lot of people called it Highway 63. That's what I remember and know about Gene. When he pulled around that left side, it's like a hurricane is coming through. He wiped out everything that was there."

Speed and quickness was his trade. Was not the drive blocker or a great trapper like some others on our list but he was effective enough. He did have a reputation as a holder.

Upshaw as voted to seven Pro Bowls and was part of two Super Bowl wins and was a seven-time All-Pro/AFL pick plus he was Second-team All-Pro/AFL four more times.  Also, he was named to AFL-NFL 25-year All-Star, NFL 75th Anniversary All-Time. Upshaw was shut out of the 1970s All-Decade team but PFJ named him to the 1965-1975 All-Mid-Decade Team. Additionally, he was the Co-winner of the 1976 Offensive Lineman of the Year by the 1000-yard club.

13. Will Shields
Went to a lot of Pro Bowls he was solid, could run and might be called a poor man's Randall McDaniel. He kept his hands to himself, like Hutchinson, only seven accepted holding calls against him in his career (and just six false starts as well), he was Mr. Clean.

“What stood out to me was how strong he was, just so strong,” Vince Wilfork said. Warren Sapp calls Shields the "fourth-best guard he played against" (Larry Allen, Randall  McDaniel and Brian Waters are the top three).

Shield's Pro Bowl total was twelve and he was First-team All-Pro three times (twice consensus) and a four-time Second-team All-Pro and also was a Second-team All-2000s Team member. Shields never missed a game during his 14-season career and his 224 games played and 223 starts are still Chiefs records.

14. Dick Stanfel
Stanfel played seven seasons and was a consensus All-Pro in five of them and made the 1950s All-Decade team. He also earned two NFL championship rings. He was named the Most Valuable Player on the 1953 title team and he was called by his coaches the NFL's best guard.

15. Doug Wilkerson
Yet another great leader of sweeps. But, he was also adept and pass protection. Similar in some ways to Randall McDaniel. "Quick, strong, a powerhouse guard who makes all the blocks", said an NFL scout. Dr. Z said, "He is just so pretty to watch".

Wilkerson played 15 seasons playing in 204 games (195 starts), he likely could have played longer. According to Ed White, Wilkerson was still running 4.9 forties before he hung 'em up in 1985 Charger camp.

"Baby Huey" (Wilkerson's nickname based on his natural strength) was First-team All-Pro in 1982 Second-team All-Pro in 1979 and 1980 and was voted to three Pro Bowls (1980-82).

16. Ed White
Power, traps, pass protection but could move a little too. Large and extremely strong. He had good balance and was an extremely effective short-setter in pass protection.

Big Ed played 17 seasons, playing in 241 games (210 starts) and was a four-time Pro Bowler. He was also All-Pro in 1974 and 1975 and Second-team All-Pro in 1976 and 1979. He was First- or Second-team All-Conference in 1974-77, and 1979. White was also a Second-team PFJ 1985-1995 All-Decade team selection as well.

Did everything well. Never got the credit he deserved (Consensus ALl-Pro in 1997 and a Second-team All-AFC pick in 1995), but graded very high by Proscout, Inc., year after year.

His key asset was avoiding "key big errors" and keeping his man from the ball. He was always "blue" (tops) as a technician. He had one game versus a monster All-Pro defensive tackle that, "that bordered on sadistic annihilation."

Thirteen Pro Bowls. Mack was a dominant player versus the run and he pass early in his career. In his last few years, he got my on savvy and experience as his strength and speed seemed to decline. His first eight or so seasons were like Zach Martin is now, but his last several were just not as dominant. Bob Lilly named Jim Parker the toughest lineman he faced but Mack was second on his list. Larry Little said, "Mack could do it all".

Mack was voted to 11 Pro Bowls in 13 seasons and was a First-team All-Pro five times and a Second-team All-Pro three times. When you add in his All-Conference selections to all that, Mack got post-season honors in 12 of his 13 seasons. PFJ named him to the 1965-1975 All-Mid-Decade Team as well. He played in 184 games, never missing one.


19. Bob Kuechenberg
Similar to DeLamielleure, but not quite as quick or nimble. As technically proficient as they come. Said by players like DeLamielleure and John Hannah to be the guy they modeled their game after.

Kuech played fourteen seasons and went to six Pro Bowls. He earned two Super Bowl rings and was First-team All-Pro in 1975 and 1978. He was Second-team All-Pro in 1977. PFJ also named Kuech a Second-team 1985-1995 All-Mid-Decade team

20. Bob Young
Like Ed White only not as big and maybe couldn't run quite as well. Played 16 seasons and in 194 games. Began as a defensive end in Denver before converting to guard. He was one of the NFL's strongest men and was among the best pass blocking guards ever. And with his strength could really move defensive linemen back.

He was All-Pro in 1979 and was All-NFC in 1977-79. Likely would have had more honors in 1975-76 had Conrad Dobler (an inferior guard) not gotten so much publicity for his style of play.

21. Billy Shaw
A great guard in the mold of Mack or Faneca. Not overpowering but could run and could drive block with efficiency but not dominance.

He was a member of the AFL's All-Decade Team for the 1960s and an All-AFL selection five times and Second-team All-AFL twice and played in eight AFL All-Star games. He was a vital member of the Buffalo Bills championship teams of 1964 and 1965.

Again, like Shaw, Mack, Faneca. A highly motivated efficient blocker. He began his career as one of Paul Brown's "messenger guards" but quickly moved into a full-time role, blocking for Jim Brown and then Leroy Kelly.

He was voted to six Pro Bowls. He was a five-time All-Pro (three consensus) and a Second-team All-Pro once and for good measure in 1968 he was voted as the NFL's top blocker.  He played 202 games in his fifteen-year career.

23. Alan Faneca
Will make the Hall of Fame, doesn't grade as high as many in front of him, but he was a steady sort who did get a lot of post-season honors. Faneca was All-Decade for the 2000s and a six-time First-team All-Pro and twice a Second-teamer and he went to nine Pro Bowls. In 2004 and 2008 Faneca was voted the NFL's Offensive Lineman of the Year by the NFL Alumni as well.

Another one where he rarely got called for a hold (just four in his career) but had a problem with false starts (24 in his career). He was solid in all areas except pass protection. With run blocks (short and long traps he used technique, positioning, and smarts to win.

24. Russ Grimm
An ideal fit for the Hogs. Heavy, solid, a hard worker. Said Buchsbaum, "Not a great athlete but a great player with great work habits, strength, and intensity.

He was voted the NFLPA NFC Offensive Lineman of the Year in 1984 and he was a four-time All-Pro and went to four Pro Bowls and five times he was a First- or Second-team All-NFC pick.

25. Marshal Yanda
A current player who is building a Hall of Fame resume.  Five times an All-Pro (two consensus) and has seven Pro Bowl nods so far. He can step out and play tackle even though he doesn't have the size (6-3) but he was effective. Packers defensive lineman Mike Daniels told NFL Films, "He technical, tough and he's strong, he's a monster."

He only has had eleven holds but has 27 false starts called on him—kind of the same ratio as Alan Faneca. He's more of a medium setter, rather than a short setter, giving a defensive tackle some space before engaging and shutting them down. Rans defensive lineman Michael Brockers said Yanda is "a patient guy. He stays on his track and wits for you to do something then he locks you down.".

26. Walt Sweeney
Called by Merlin Olsen one of the top couple of guards he faced (Jim Parker was his #1). Sweeney was tall (6-5) and on the large side (for his era) and good speed and strength. Very underrated.

PFJ named him to the 1965-1975 All-Mid-Decade Team and he was a Second-team All-AFL 1960s pick. He was All-AFL/All-Pro four times (Second-team twice more) and voted to nine AFL All-Star games/Pro Bowls. He was also voted the NFL's top blocker in 1971.

27. Gale Gillingham
Now that Jerry Kramer is in the Hall of Fame we are reading comments that perhaps Gillingham is the best guard in Packers history. We're not sure about that but he could get it done and fits with most of the guards we have from #20-#25. As previously mentioned Bob Lilly named Jim Parker the toughest lineman he faced and Tom Mack was second on his list and third was Gillingham.

He was 6-3, 265 pounds (often listed as 255 but he was bigger than that) and he could run well and had fine technique.

Gillingham played ten seasons (missed one completely and played two games in another) s his career is on the short side. He was Second-team All-Pro in 1968, First-team All-Pro in 1969, 70, 71, 73, and 74 and he was picked for five Pro Bowls. In 1970 one organization named his as the NFL Offensive Lineman of the Year as well and in 1971 the NFLPA named him the NFC Offensive Lineman of the Year.

The oddest thing in Gillingham's career was when, in 1972, after training camp and during the preseason new coach Dan Devine moved him to defensive tackle (and moved defensive tackle Mike McCoy to tackle).

The experiment ended after two games when Gillingham hurt a knee. He tried to gut it out and was week-to-week for about a month before being put on injured reserve. Injuries forced him to retire in 1975 but he came back in 1976 for one more round in the NFL.

Talk of Fame Network's Clark Judge wrote, “I believe Gillingham is the best lineman in Packers’ history,” former Hall-of-Fame selector and long-time Packers' beat reporter Cliff Christl told me this week, “and I believe most players who played with him agree. He was John Hannah before John Hannah.”

Bart Starr said, in 1975, that Gale's one of the proudest men ever to play for this organization will go down as one of the great guards in the history of the NFL". Well, he made our list.


28. Randy Cross
Smart, efficient, quick. Was a fine center as well. He had "quick feet, good body control and was a superb pass blocker", said an NFL scout. He wasn't going to blow people off the ball like a Joh Hannah or Mike Munchak but he was able to pull, cut. He wasn't going to lose balance and "whiff" like some of the big hitters would sometimes do. He would get the job done and a team could certainly win with him and the 49ers did.

Cross played thirteen seasons and was a starter in all of them (He began and ended his career as a center), He first was a Second-team All-Pro in 1980, a year before the 49ers got good so he wasn't one of those players getting All-Pro honors just because the team got good, the old "well the team is in the playoffs, someone must be blocking well" All-Pro vote.

Cross then was First-team All-Pro in 1981 (consensus), Second-team All-NFC in 1982, First-team All-Pro in 1984 and 1985, Second-team All-Pro in 1986 and Second-team All-NFC in 1987-88 (as a center). And along the way, he earned three Super Bowl rings. So, his only season without some level of post-season honors from 1980-88 was 1983, when he was as good then as any of his other seasons. The point? He was a remarkably consistent player.



29. Logan Mankins
Mankins was an eleven-year starter and went to seven Pro Bowls while also being voted All-Pro in 2007, 2010, and 2013. He was Second-team All-Pro in 2009, 2011-12. Though technically eligible he was one of the players that were caught between decades. To remedy that PFJ picked retro All-Mid-Decade Teams and Mankins was on it for 2005-15.

Bill Belichick called him a "super tough guy, both physically and mentally".  Mankins was excellent at shot sets and keeping the pocket clean so Tom Brady could step up. He was also someone who played with power and leverage in the running game and could lead into the hole as well.

30. Stan Jones
Played some defense late in his career, Jones was among the first NFL players to life weights with seriousness. That gave him a strength advantage over most of the defensive tackles of his day and he says led directly to his success.

Jones was a 1955-65 All-Mid Decade selection by PFJ. Jones played 13 seasons, nine on the offensive line. He was All-Pro as a guard in 1955-56, 1959-60. Additionally, he was Second-team All-Pro in 1957 and 1961.

Unlike Gillingham, Jones' moved to defensive tackle worked. He was solid at that spot for a couple of years then he got hurt and then finished his career with a cup of coffee with the Redskins.

31. Ed Budde
An all-around guard, did everything well, pulling, pass protection, traps, drive blocks. He was voted to the AFL All-1960s Team. Also, PFJ named him to the 1965-1975 All-Mid-Decade Teams. Budde played from 1963-76 (14 seasons) and he was All-AFL/All-Pro twice and a Second-team twice and played in seven AFL All-Star games/Pro Bowls. He won a ring with the Chiefs in 1969.

Budde was a big guard for his era, 6-5, 265 and again, he could move. But he was always able to stand in there and take on players like Ernie Ladd, Tom Sestak (and had to go against Buck Buchanan every day when the 'ones' scrimmaged against the 'ones'.

32. Steve Wisniewski
Amazingly durable, Wisniewski missed just two games in thirteen seasons. He was voted Second-team on the Pro Football Hall of Fame All-1990s Team and also was voted to eight Pro Bowls. He was First-team All-Pro five times (two consensus) and was Second-team All-Pro three other times. In 1991 he was named the NFLPA AFC Offensive Lineman of the Year.

Buchsbaum opined, "Not as gifted as some but a blue-collar worker with good tools and great intensity".

33. Jahri Evans
Evans was a 12-year vet and was a powerful blocker, making All-Pro from 2009-12 and making the Pro Bowl from 2009-14 and earned a ring with the 2009 Saints. Though technically eligible he was one of the players that were caught between decades. To remedy that PFJ picked retro All-Mid-Decade teams and Evans was on it for 2005-15. Like Mankins, Evans was a First-team PFJ All-Mid Decade for 2005-15.

His teammate Carl Nicks looked up to Evans and said Evans was, "Aggressive, good with his hands, hard worker and a student of the game."  David Joseph added, "He's not the fastest, he's not the strongest or the most overwhelming guy but he just doesn't get beat".

34. Duane Putnam
Like Stan Jones, he was one of the first weightlifters. But he was also able to run very well and was the best pulling guard of the 1950s in our view.

Putnam played eleven seasons, mostly with the Rams. He went to five Pro Bowls, was First-team All-Pro five times (three consensus) and was also a Second-team All-Pro one additional season. He was also a 1955-65 All-Mid Decade selection by PFJ.

A member of the Pro Football Hall of Fame All-1950s Team (though he fits better on our 1945-55 squad) he was considered a terrific guard according to his peers at the time. He played eight seasons and was All-Pro in five of them and Second-team another season. Bill Willis said Barwegan is just "about the best lineman he’s ever butted heads with.”

36. Bruno Banducci
Bruno played eleven seasons and his post-season top honors are as follows: 1945 Second-team All-Pro, 1946 and 1947 First-team All-AAFC, 1951 Second-team All-Pro, 1952-54 First-team All-Pro with 1954 being a consensus All-Pro season. He was also voted to the Pro Football Hall of Fame All-1940s Team but we also put him on our 1945-55 All-Mid-Decade team where he fits better.

37. Tom Newberry
Strong, quicker, great trap blocker would flatten people. Started off his career like a possible Hall of Famer but after a few years seemed to lose some size and strength and was no longer dominant, just adequate. "Newberry is fast and strong and loves to pancake defenders", wrote Buchsbaum when Newberry was at his peak. He also said a couple of years later, "He's the NFL's fastest guard, even after knee troubles, but he's not playing as well as he can."

He was "compact, quick and exploded off the ball, getting movement and collapsing on people. With good body control, he's good at locating defenders on the move. He had long arms that helped compensate lack of height, sometimes a little over-aggressive and could be beaten on stunts." said one NFL scout, also in the late-1980s.

38. Reggie McKenzie
A smaller version of Larry Little, Gene Upshaw, and others. He could run and pull, he was O.J. Simpsons' "main man" when the Juice was loose in Buffalo. He wasn't going to dominate drive blocking people, but could he run and locate a defender and take him out.

He was voted the NFL's top blocker in 1973 and was All-Pro (consensus that year) and also in 1974 and a Second-team All-Pro in 1975. In addition, he was Second-team All-AFC in 1976 and 1980.

39. Ken Gray
Gray had a solid 13-year career. In 1958, the Green Bay Packers selected him in the NFL Draft but cut him before the start of the season. He was picked up by the Chicago Cardinals and began as a defensive end as a rookie and moved to guard in his second season.

He was voted to six Pro Bowls and was First-team All-Pro four times (one was consensus) and Second-team All-Pro three times and was a member of the NFL All-1960s Team. He also earned a spot on the St. Louis Cardinals’ All-Time Team and was inducted into the Texas Sports Hall of Fame in 2016. He spent his final year with the Oilers in 1970.

40. John Gordy
In Gordy's decade in football, he was All-Pro twice (1964 and 1965) and Second-team All-Pro twice more (1966 and 1967) and was also All-Conference (and a Pro Bowler) in 1963. He was a rookie starter on the Lions NFL Championship team in 1957.

41. Howard Mudd
Mudd's top honor is being a member of the Pro Football Hall of Fame All-1960s Team. o earn that he a two-time All-Pro and three-time Pro Bowler. But, right after he was voted to that team his career ended. He became one of the best offensive line coaches ever.

42. Dennis Harrah
A taller guard with great upper body strength. In his early years could pull with the best of them. Later became a more efficient pass blocker but did get called for holding a lot. "A very, very strong one-on-one blocker. A good pass blocker who has good pulling speed bus is not overly nimble", said Buchsbaum.

Hill was 6-5, 260, and would run a 4.8 and had the build of Adonis. Super-long arms helped him in pass protection and was perhaps the best pulling guard/long trapper of his era. The 47 Gap play, Eric Dickerson's favorite, relied on guards who could move and Harrah and Hill you'd do that making the 48 Gap as successful as the 47 Gap.

Smith played nine years and was All-Pro four times (three consensus), he was All-Conference/Pro Bowl level from 1957-62 with the Browns. He finished his career with a pair of seasons with the Dallas Cowboys.  Smith was a Second-team 1955-65 All-Mid Decade selection by PFJ.


Two All-Pros and six Pro Bowls for Nate plus three Super Bowl rings. In 1994 NFL Alumni voted him the NFL's Offensive Lineman of the Year. He could play tackle as well.

He was a huge player with "surprising mobility for his size and is a devastating drive blocker". One opposing scout said, "Nate is one of the most competitive players we see every year. He works hard and if he gets his hands on you then you can kiss your butt goodbye".
Like Putnam and Stan Jones, a third weight lifter of the era. A solid, big player for the Giants. Stroud was a Second-team 1955-65 All-Mid Decade selection by PFJ. He was a 12-year player and a starter almost all of it. He was a Second-team All-Pro from 1956-62, with the exception of 1958 when he missed five games.

47. John Niland
John Niland's decade with the Cowboys was quite successful. In 1971 he won a title and in those ten seasons Niland was First-team All-Pro three times and was a Pro Bowler from 1968-73. He was also the 1971 Offensive Lineman of the Year winner from the Wisconsin Touchdown Club.

48. Ruben Brown
The 6-3, 300 pound Brown was an underrated performer. He went to nine Pro Bowls and was a four-time Second-team All-Pro. He did have a big problem with penalties, though. He was called for 104 and 89 were accepted (50 false starts).

49. Brian Waters
Six Pro Bowls and two All-Pros (one consensus) for Waters. He played in 186 games, starting 170 of them. A very powerful blocker. Called by Warren Sapp the third best guard he ever faced.

50. Bill Fralic
Said Joel Buchsbaum, "A super destroyer, a powerful blocker" but also "didn't always play unto expectations". Fralic played nine years and was a starter all nine. He was All-Pro twice and went to four Pro Bowls, then tailed off. He was a Second-team member of the All-1980s Team. In 1986 the NFL Alumni voted him the NFL's top offensive lineman.

We may have him a bit too high, but everyone has to go somewhere.


51. Conrad Dobler
Pass blocking and dirty play were his calling cards. He worked his way into an NFL starter and was part of probably the best pass blocking offensive line in history.

A self-made player, he got by the competitiveness. His great claim to fame is every line he became a starter for improved as a unit—The Cardinals in the early 1970s, the Saints in the late-1970s and the Bills in the early 1980s. He worked his way into being All-Pro in 1976 and was a Pro Bowl/All-NFC level player in 1975-77 and 1979.


52. Larry Warford
Warford has six seasons in and has gone to the last two Pro Bowls. We picked him for our All-Pro team in 2017 and think he's getting better and better. His 2013 rookie season was as good a rookie season a guard has had, equal to Zach Martin and Quenton Nelson at least. He needs to have more good seasons to move up on this list.

53. Bob Talamini
An AFL Hall of Fame Second-team All-1960s Team and a Second-team AllAFL in 1961, First-team All-AFL from 1962-67 and he earned three AFL championships rings and one Super Bowl ring when he was with the Jets in 1968.

54. David DeCastro
All-Pro in 2015 and 2017 (consensus) and Second-team All-Pro in 2016 he's building a solid resume. He also has been voted to four Pro Bowls in his seven seasons.

55. Abe Gibron
Big Abe went to four Pro Bowls in the 1950s (1952-55) and got All-League mention in 1951, 53-55 with 1955 being a consensus All-Pro season. He helped the Browns earn three championship rings in his time with the club and later go into coaching. He was short, even for his day (5-11) and listed at 245, though maybe was a bit heavier than that.

56. Bucko Kilroy
Kilroy was a member of the Pro Football Hall of Fame All-Decade Team of the 1940s as a guard. Later in his career, he played more defense (as a middle guard). From 1948-54 he got some soirt of post-season honors. He was known to have a mean streak as well.

57. Herbert Scott
Scott was one of the "Dirty Dozen" the twelve rookies on the 1975 NFC Champion Dallas Cowboys. He earned a starting spot in 1976 and he was All-Pro in 1980 and 1981. He was also All-NFC/Pro Bowl in 1978, 1979, 1980, 1981, and 1983. He was kind of squatty but was effective in the Dallas scheme.

58. Harley Sewell
Twice and NFL champ, Sewell was part of great Lions teams of the 1950s. He earned four Pro Bowls from 1953-63 and was Second-team All-Pro in 1955, 56, 57, 58 and 62 and was All-Conference in 1960. He played some defense early in his career, but he was a smaller, mobile-type player.

59. Ray Brown
He played forever and didn't get many awards but could be as good as most and even could move out to tackle in a pinch. He was a backup or missed time with injuries his first five seasons with the Cardinals and then the Redskins.

Then in 1992, due to injuries along the Redskins line, Brown got his chance to start and he held that status the next 13 years until he was 42 years old. He left the Redskins to join the 49ers in 1996 and with the 49ers, in 2001, Brown finally made Second-team All-Pro and went to the Pro Bowl.

He went to the Lions for a couple of years then returned to the Redskins in 2004 where he played tackle for them.

He played pretty clean, in his top season, 2001, he had just one holding call and no false starts. From 1995-97 he played penalty-free.

60. Jim Ritcher
Strong, quick, and could run a 4.7 forty, just a tremendous athlete. He took a while to nail down a starting job but was a good player year in and year out.

61. Kelechi Osemele
An All-Pro once and a two-time All-Pro. At 6-5, 240 or so he is a road-grader type and a good one at that. Is known as a nasty-type player, one going for the big lick and "K.O." is that guy.

62. Josh Sitton
Sitton played eleven seasons and was voted to four Pro Bowls. We named him to our 2005-2015 All-Mid-Decade Team (Second-team). He was All-Pro in 2014 and he was Second-team All-Pro in 2013 and 2015.

Additionally, Pro Football Focus tapped his as All-Pro in 2010 and Second-team All-Pro in 2011. And finally, in 2010, Sitton was voted the NFL Amuni Offensive Lineman of the Year.

He's a throwback player who is physical players in the league and love smashmouth-type football.

An All-Pro once, a Second-team All-Pro once and has been named to four Pro Bowls. Has been dogged by injuries in recent years. A 'mauler-type'.

64. Dave Herman
Herman was the top guard on the Jets line in his era, he was All-AFL in 1967 and 1968 and Second-team All-AFL in 1969, he was a starter from 1965-73.

65. Blaine Nye
Nye played nine years for Tom Landry, starting the last seven from 1970-76. He was All-Pro in 1971 (and earned a Super Bowl ring as well) and was a Pro Bowler in 1974 a second-team All-NFC pick in 1975 and a Pro Bowler again in 1976 (his final season). Nye had pretty good size for his era and excellent mobility.

66. Max Montoya
Montoya played sixteen years, fourteen as a starter and along the way, he earned four Pro Bowl appearances, the last on in his fifteenth season. In 1988 and 1989 he was a Second-team All-Pro and he was All-AFC in 1986 as well. He had a tackle's size (6-5, 285) when drafted by the Bengals in 1979 but settled into guard his second season. He later grew bigger, to near 300 pounds and was a top-notch guard for a long time. At 34 he signed with the Raiders and gave them solid play as well.

67. Ed Newman
For six seasons Ed Newman was a backup, a six lineman—someone who could fill in anywhere if one of the starters went down. Finally, in 1979 he got his chance to start and two seasons later he went to the first of his four Pro Bowls.

He was also Second-team All-Pro that year (1981) and All-Pro in 1982 as the Dolphins won the AFC title and in 1983 he was Second-team All-Pro again. He ended his career in 1984 as an All-Pro. He hurt his knee in 1985 and that prevented him from continuing his post-season honors streak.

He was kind of a mini-Keuchenberg, a strong, self-made player who was technically proficient.

66. Chris Snee
A worker, he played himself into an All-Pro (2008 and 2010, Second-team 2009) and a four-time Pro Bowler. Vital to both Giants Super Bowl wins (2008 and 2011).

69. R.C. Thielemann
A technician who lacked size. Had to bulk up to get to 250-55. He was All-Pro in 1982 and a Pro Bowler from 1981-83. Spent his first eight seasons with the Falcons and the final four with the Redskins where he was the 'anti-Hog'. But despite size was a solid run blocker.

70. Evan Mathis
Mathis was a consensus All-Pro in 2013, though PFF gave him mention in 2011 and 2012. Mathis was a throwback to the 1970s in that he was the type of guard who excelled at getting out in space and finding a target and hitting it. He lacked size and bulk but he could sure run. He bounced around the league for a few years then landed with the Eagles where he made his bones. He then went to the Broncos and the Cardinals, where he got hurt and that ended his career. 

71. Carl Nicks
Injuries cut down a promising career. He was a monster of a man and like Evan Mathis PFF liked him, they named him All-Pro from 2009-11. The AP named him All-Pro in 2011 and Second-team All-Pro the year before. A fair comparison might be to Kelechi Osemele.

72. Wayne Hawkins
Probably the fourth-fifth most decorated guard in the AFL. He was a five-time AFL All-Star selection and was First-team All-AFL in 1961, Second-team All-AFL in 1963 and 1964, First-team All-AFL in 1965-67, though none of them were consensus All-Pro seasons where he was on the majority of the All-Pro teams.

73. John Wooten
All-Pro in 1966, a Pro Bowler in 1965 and 1966. Wooten was a smaller guard, less than 240 pounds, perhaps a throwback to the 1950s. He got it done but using good technique and smarts and he could run very well.

74. Guy McIntyre
Spent four years as a backup lineman, sometimes lining up as a fullback he secured a starting job in 1988. In 1989 he began a streak of attending five straight Pro Bowls and in 1992 he was a Second-team All-Pro. Considered a 'smaller guard' for his era, he was in some ways a poor man's Randall McDaniel, good on the move, good pass protector.

75. Kris Dielman
The 6-4, 320 pound Dielman was solid, played nine years before injuries got to him, he was voted to four Pro Bowls. In 2008 and 2009 he was voted Second-team All-Pro.

76. Trai Turner
Four Pro Bowls in five years for Turner. He needs to impress a bit more to get to the All-Pro status as opposed to Pro Bowl level. If he does that he could move up our list fast.

77. Fuzzy Thurston
Began career with the Colts in 1958 before going to the Packers so including the five NFL titles with teh Packers he has one with the Colts, for a total of six championship rings. He was All-Pro in 1961 (consensus) and 1962 and Second-team All-Pro in 1963, 64, and 66.
78. Leonard Davis
A massive 12-year player who never seemed to live up to expectations. He was 6-6, listed at 355, but was likely bigger than that. He began is a guard, moved to tackle then back to guard when he joined the Cowboys. With Dallas, he was a Second-team All-Pro in 2007 and a Pro Bowler from 2007-09.

At tackle, he had an issue with false starts but wasn't a holder usually getting just one or two a season called on him which is acceptable. Best skill was as a drive blocker where his mass was just too much for most defensive linemen.

79. Sean Farrell
An All-Pro in 1984 by the Sporting News and was a starter from 1982-89. A solid, savvy pro, he never became the dominant guard people thought he would be coming out of Penn State.

80. Joe Scibelli
Bill Curry once wrote that early in his career Scibelli's best asset as an offensive lineman was his bad breath and that it kept defenders at bay. He also added that Scibelli became a good player. "Ski" was a Pro Bowler in 1968 and was an All-Pro in 1973.

He played 15 years and was a starter in all of them. He was a little heavier than the guards of the day (around 255) when many of them were in the 240-250 range. He was not great in space, but could get out there when needed but was a decent pass protector.

81. Mark Schlereth
Stink played twelve seasons, six for the Redskins and six for the Broncos and went to one Pro Bowl with each team. He earned one Super Bowl ring for the Redskins and two with the Broncos.

A three-time Pro Bowler and a Second-team All-Pro once. Johnny Sample noted, "Nisby would fire out so hard he would knock guys over backward".

83. Mark Bortz
Called "a butcher" by one scout, to which Dr. Z. said, "perfect" and put Bortz on his All-Pro team. He was All-Pro in 1990 and a Pro Bowler in 1988 and 1990. He played a dozen seasons and was a starter in eleven of them and earned a Super Bowl ring in 1985.

84. Irv Goode
Irv Goode was a converted tackle who was quite big (6-5, 255) who was Second-team All-Pro in 1970 and a Pro Bowler in 1964 and 1967

85. Bill Austin
All-Pro once (in 1955) and Pro Bowler in 1954 Austin was a smaller guard, a solid player of the 1950s Giants.

86. Keith Sims
Second-team All-Pro once and a three-time Pro Bowler. 

87. Ron Stone
A monster-sized guard, he was 6-5, 325, and a twelve-year veteran and a three-time Pro Bowl. 

One of the blockers who opened holes for Walter Peyton. He was First-team All-NFC in 1977 and Second-team All-NFC in 1978 and 1979. Injuries took a toll and he only played eight seasons.

89. Vince Promuto
Two Pro Bowls for Promuto, he was a fixture at right guard for the Redskins during the 1960s.

90. Richie Incognito—Nasty, but very powerful. Not borderline dirty, he is/was dirty. Four Pro Bowls

91. Noah Jackson
In 1980 Jackson was Second-team All-NFC. He played ten seasons.

92. Ben Grubbs—Good player, made a couple of Pro Bowls, but was consistently on that level

93. Joel Bitonio—Coming on, could rise fast if healthy.

94. Davin Joseph—a couple of Pro Bowls, lots of injuries

95. T.J. Lang—Also a couple of Pro Bowls, consistent, still active. Could rise some. Has a ring.

96. Shawn Andrews—Huge guard, injuries cut his career short. One All-Pro, two Pro Bowls.

97. Woody Peoples—Post-season honors from 1971-73, then solidified Eagle line that got to Super Bowl in 1980.

98. Kevin Gogan—Played tackle early, then moved to guard, three Pro Bowls. Nasty player, in the Dobler/Incognito category. Earned to Super Bowl rings, one as a starter. Buchsbaum on Gogan, "A man mountain with a mean streak but whose feet sometimes appear to be stuck in cement".

99. Roy Foster—First- or Second-team All-AFC four times. Doesn't like raisins in his cookies. 

100. Art Spinney—began as a guard, then played left defensive end in Gino Marchetti's spot when the Colts moved Gino to tackle. He returned to guard and got pretty good. He was First- or Second-team All-Pro from 1957-60 when he hung 'em up. Johnny Sample wrote, "I think Jim Parker picked up his habit of punching guys in the guy from Spinney".

101. Marco Rivera—A three-time Pro Bowler and a one-time Second-team All-Pro. A battler, not super talented. Got caught holding a lot. 

102. Kyle Long
A Pro Bowler his first three seasons (one as a tackle) the injury bug has ruined his last three seasons.
103. Sonny Bishop—A short career, post-season honors in three of his eight seasons.


104. Brandon Brooks—Still active, getting better. Went to the last couple of Pro Bowls.

105. Darrell Dess—Two Pro Bowls for Dess and he was also Second-team All-Pro in 1963

106. Adam Timmerman—A Pro Bowler in 2001, Rams signed him in 1999 and was an upgrade over Zach Wiegert and helped Rams offensive explosion over next many years.

107. William Roberts
Fourteen years, eleven as a starter. A Pro Bowler in 1990. Began his career as a tackle, moved to guard in 1989.

108. Ken Huff
A pretty good player who never got any post-season honors but was solid in all aspects and blocked for Bert Jones and Joe Theismann.

109. Robert Pratt
Another excellent guard with no post-season honors. He was a starter for the Colts then the Seahawks. He missed just seven games in his career.

The only All-Pro team Glassic made was when Dr. Z picked him in the late-1970s. He was a good guard, well-coached cerebral. However, he liked to collect and paint toy soldiers. Zim did, too. Connection? 

Began as a tackle, played some defense for a year, then moved to guard. He was a consensus All-Pro in 1966.

A fifteen-year player, a starter in all of them, twice he was a Second-team ALl-AFC pick. Dr. Z picked him as an All-Pro once for his New York Post team.

A good guard who started with the good Dallas teams in the late 1960s and then was part of George Allen's rebuilding of the Redskins in the early 1970s.

114. Sam Davis



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Okay, that's enough. We have more, but we tried to look at everyone. The key to any list is the top and the elite are all there. People may disagree or criticize, that's fine. 

The lower names on the list are to honor some great players and recognize their achievements and we hope we've done that.

Comments are welcome.

Illustrations from media guides, posters. Artists include Merv Corning, Chuck Ren, George Bartell and others. 

12 comments:

  1. I presume your comment regarding Kilroy was not so subtle understatement: "He was known to have a mean streak as well." I got a laugh out of that....thought Wooten and Gogan might be ranked a bit highers….with the possible exception of Jim Parker, has anyone ever had a better rookie year than Quinn Snyder?

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    1. I assume you mean Quenton Nelson. I think others were as good or better. Zack Martin, Larry Warford, Chris Hinton, guard as rookie, Tom Newberry, Joe D, Jonathan Ogden was a guard as rookie, was one of the best.

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    2. yes of course....a pox on me for not doublechecking name

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  2. Fantastic list and information, as always. Its splitting hairs but I expected McDaniel over Matthews. From what I saw Matthews was more versatile and played longer. If I could draft someone and know I was getting their entire career I would draft him over McDaniel, but I think McDaniel was a better guard with Bruce being a better lineman.

    Thanks for taking the time and effort in compiling these!

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    1. thanks, it's fun to do them. I try not to make the run of the mill, same as all the others.

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  3. Note from the Bears corner:
    Kyle Long is better football player than either Noah Jackson or Revey Sorey. I'm assuming that a couple more healthy years from Long would shoot him up the list.

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    1. yes, he;s been hurt, played a year at tackle, but yes, Long is good... if he can get some "blue" years---he could easily shot to top 50. Remember the top of the list are 10s. Then 9s...and the guys from the 50s-100s are all 7s or 8s, not much separation.

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  4. Surprised to see Kuechenberg so low. If Shula said he was his best lineman then why have him behind Little? Did scouts not love Kooch?

    Upshaw seemed a bit overrated when I saw him. McDaniel wasn't strong enough as a drive blocker for me either.

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    1. Anywhere from 11-20 are very close. Little was a good drive blocker, people I talk to say he was great. He could also run and was a great pass blocker. Upshaw was maybe the top pulling guard, good plass blocker, not so goo drive blocker, Kuech solid in all areas but did lack foot speed, and his pulling (key in that era) was not as good as the others, in a phone booth Keuch as good as any. McDaniel is interesting in that he was good at position blocking, he'd get to the point and hold it, so, yah he didn't dive well, but he got godo marks in run blocking to me, anyway. And his movement and pass pro were blue. Blue feet...

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  5. I know... its not a bad ranking for Kooch at all. Little was a monsnter drive blocker.. better than Kooch agreed. Kooch had red feet instead of blue?

    I hear you on McDaniel. Dr Z said in late 90s that had his best technical seasons. Do you agree?

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  6. Suprised the Chargers offensive line of the 80s doesn't have any HOFamers...all of them were excellent and I believe Washington, Macek and White should be in. Glad you mentioned Bob Young, he creamed people like Hannah...Bob Talamini was strong and underrated, as was all the Jet lineman. The Steelers guards of the 70s were underrated as well. Hickerson of the Browns deserved to be higher and Scott of the Cowboys was the best Cowboy guard behind Allen and Niland...

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  7. A great collection of guards. Here is mine including pre- WW2 legends: 1 John Hannah 2 Bruce Matthews 3 Jim Parker 4 Larry Allen 5 Randall McDaniel 6 Larry Little 7 Gene Upshaw 8 Mike Munchak 9 Alan Faneca 10 Steve Hutchinson 11 Joe DeLamielluere 12 Tom Mack 13 Dick Stanfel 14 Jerry Kramer 15 Will Shields 16 Marshall Yanda 17 Zack Martin 18 Mike Michalske 19 Dan Fortmann 20 Gene Hickerson 21 Russ Grimm 22 Bob Keuchenberg 23 Bill Fralic 24 Walt Kiesling 25 Doug Wilkerson 26 Gale Gillingham 27 Steve Wisniewski 28 Billy Shaw 29 Randy Cross 30 Logan Mankins 31 Howard Mudd 32 Chris Snee 33 Guy McIntyre 34 Buckets Goldenberg 35 Dick Barwegan 36 Reuben Brown 37 Ed Budde 38 Jahri Evans 39 Dennis Harrah 40 Fuzzy Thurston 41 Ed White 42 Bob Young 43 Kent Hill 44 Dave Szott 45 Reggie McKenzie 46 Tom Newberry 47 Nate Newton 48 Brian Waters 49 Jim Ray Smith 50 Jack Stroud

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