By John Turney
Sometimes, even among NFL researchers and historians there is a disconnect in All-Pro teams for the 1960s (and from 1946-49) in terms of All-Pro versus All-NFL and All-AFL (and All-Pro vs All-NFL and All-AAFC).
They have all been used interchangeably by most of us but they really are not. In the 1960s there were All-AFL teams and All-NFL teams for all ten seasons. However, starting in 1967 there were major organizations that picked combined All-Pro teams, selection players from both leagues
In 1967, Murray Olderman picked the first kind of "major" All-Pro team—picking players from both leagues and in 1968 the PFWA and PFW did it, and then in 1969 most organizations finally did it.
Needless to say, it is tougher to make an All-Pro team than an All-AFL or All-NFL team thus it is a bit higher of an honor, worthy to be noted in our view.
Here is the combined 1969 All-Pro team from the major organizations—
OFFENSE
Wide Receivers
Lance Alworth, San Diego (HOF, PFWA, NEA, PFW)
Fred Biletnikoff, Oakland (PFWA, PFW)
Paul Warfield, Cleveland (HOF, NEA)
Tight Ends
Jerry Smith, Washington (PFWA, NEA)
Bob Trumpy, Cincinnati (HOF, PFW)
Tackles
Bob Brown, Los Angeles (HOF, PFWA, NEA, PFW)
Jim Tyrer, Kansas City (HOF, PFWA, PFW)
Winston Hill, N.Y. Jets (NEA)
Guards
Gene Hickerson, Cleveland (HOF, PFWA, PFW)
Walt Sweeney, San Diego (NEA, PFW)
Tom Mack, Los Angeles (HOF)
Ed Budde, Kansas City (NEA)
Gene Upshaw, Oakland (PFWA)
Center
Mick Tingelhoff, Minnesota (HOF, PFWA, NEA, PFW)
Quarterback
Daryle Lamonica, Oakland (PFWA, PFW)
Roman Gabriel, Los Angeles (HOF)
Joe Namath, N.Y. Jets (NEA)
Running Backs
Gale Sayers, Chicago (HOF, PFWA, NEA, PFW)
Calvin Hill, Dallas (HOF, PFWA)
Leroy Kelly, Cleveland (NEA)
Matt Snell, N.Y. Jets (PFW)
DEFENSE
Defensive Ends
Carl Eller, Minnesota (HOF, PFWA, NEA, PFW)
Deacon Jones, Los Angeles (HOF, PFWA, NEA, PFW)
Defensive Tackles
Merlin Olsen, Los Angeles (HOF, PFWA, NEA, PFW)
Bob Lilly, Dallas (HOF, PFWA, NEA)
Buck Buchanan, Kansas City (PFW)
Middle Linebacker
Dick Butkus, Chicago (HOF, PFWA, NEA, PFW)
Outside Linebackers
Bobby Bell, Kansas City (HOF, PFWA, NEA, PFW)
Chuck Howley, Dallas (HOF, NEA, PFW)
George Webster, Houston (PFWA)
Cornerbacks
Willie Brown, Oakland (HOF, PFWA, NEA, PFW)
Lem Barney, Detroit (HOF, NEA, PFW)
Mel Renfro, Dallas (NEA-S, PFW)
Safeties
Dave Grayson, Oakland (PFWA, NEA, PFW)
Larry Wilson, St. Louis (HOF, PFWA)
Johnny Robinson, Kansas City (HOF)
SPECIALISTS
Kicker
Jan Stenerud, Kansas City (HOF, NEA)
Jim Turner, N.Y. Jets (PFWA)
Punter
David Lee, Baltimore ( (HOF, PFWA, NEA)
Selectors:
HOF = Pro Football Hall of Fame (poll of the 24-man selection committee)
PFWA = Pro Football Writers of America (poll of members)
NEA = Newspaper Enterprise Association
PFW = Pro Football Weekly: All-Pro team (poll of NFL & AFL correspondents)
Note: The AP never picked a combined NFL/AFL team
I am surprised Jim Otto wasn't in this mix. But what a group!
ReplyDeleteHi John - I understand that Murray Olderman picked a consensus team in 1967 but I can't find that anywhere. Can you point me in the right direction?
ReplyDeleteFound it! Maybe your readers w/b interested? I know '68 had a couple of major sources for consensus teams, and the Detroit news had them from '67 thru '69. Thanks.
ReplyDeleteYes, 1968 had a few souces. As far as I know the detroit News 1967 combined was not publus
DeletePro Football Alamnac published combined teams from 1963-65, but not afte that.
Yes, Olderman did pick a combined team in 1967 -- as you've found.
In 1967 there was a strike at the Detroit News... as far as I know they published them in Football Digest in Aug. 1968. And it was only All-AFL and All-NFL.
If you've found a 1967 Detroit News Combined AFL-NFL then that would be a new discovery -- at least I am not aware of it. Bob Gill published that piece on Detroit News and did not list it a 1967 combined ...
So if you have unearthed one it, let me know ... would be interested to see it.
Sorry John - no new discovery. I misspoke (or miswrote). I have a combined team from Detroit News from '66, '68 and '69. NOT '67.
DeleteDidn't know about the Pro Football Almanac teams - would love to see those.